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Old June 17th, 2007, 11:48 AM   #1
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Stolen Jeep hits idle train, 4 die... It's the crossings fault

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Old June 17th, 2007, 11:53 AM   #2
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They may have stood a chance if he'd bothered to keep an eye on his kids. Screaming asshole, trying to blame the railroad, because he let his daughter out with a crowd that steals cars. I know at 15, 330am meant I was in bed, not out around town. Don't get me wrong, It's sad that someone died, but the railroad was not the one in the wrong.
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Old June 17th, 2007, 11:56 AM   #3
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They may have stood a chance if he'd bothered to keep an eye on his kids. Screaming asshole, trying to blame the railroad, because he let his daughter out with a crowd that steals cars. I know at 15, 330am meant I was in bed, not out around town. Don't get me wrong, It's sad that someone died, but the railroad was not the one in the wrong.
I imagine nothing that that man says can be taken literally as of this point. I know I would be spouting off some BS if a loved one of mine died.
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Old June 17th, 2007, 11:57 AM   #4
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I dunno, I'd be still grieving at this point, maybe seem, I dunno, sad? He just seems pissed, maybe he ought to look towards the driver of the Jeep.
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Old June 17th, 2007, 12:19 PM   #5
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They may have stood a chance if he'd bothered to keep an eye on his kids. Screaming asshole, trying to blame the railroad, because he let his daughter out with a crowd that steals cars. I know at 15, 330am meant I was in bed, not out around town. Don't get me wrong, It's sad that someone died, but the railroad was not the one in the wrong.
Most 15 year olds arent always where they say they are, and sadly this stuff happens. I cant really blame anyone else but the driver, stealing a vehicle then driving at obviously uncontrollable rates of speed down a what looked like a rural road. The guy just lost his daughter and he's just looking for something to blame aside from the kid.
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Old June 17th, 2007, 12:24 PM   #6
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there are never any crossing gates at tracks out in the country. If the speed was 35, and they were haulin ass doing 80 than its the fault of the driver.

Whenever I come to railrod crossing sign i slow down, even if there are gates i still look booth ways as the gates could not work.

its just a shame that everyone else had to pay for the drivers mistake
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Old June 17th, 2007, 12:59 PM   #7
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Her boys, 15-year-old Bobby and 14-year-old Austin, had recently discovered the thrills of late-night joy rides, taking family members' cars for a spin, although neither had a driver's license. Davis didn't want her sons making another such excursion that night.

Without keys to a car, the Davis brothers ventured out into the darkness with their friend, Blake Varger, 15, eager to embrace the midweek freedom that only a summer night can offer.

In fact, Bobby was so determined to own some road that night that he stole two vehicles
It looks like this should be who he is upset with.
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Old June 17th, 2007, 01:31 PM   #8
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I read the story but didn't watch the CNN clip. From what I have seen, most black rail cars/tanks don't have reflectors on them. If they were in the middle of the country, it is dark as dark can be. If the railroad lights were not flashing, then the railroad is partly at fault, I would say. If a train is stopped and is blocking the road, the railroad crossing lights should be flashing. If they were flashing and they didn't see them or couldn't stop in time, then the lights/railroad is not to blame.

It's unfortunate that the kids had to die because of the driver's ignorance, but there is a bigger picture here. Parents need to take responsibility for their child's actions. This is overlooked so many times. I do think that kids that break the law should pay for their actions, but the parents need to be more responsible.
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Old June 17th, 2007, 02:00 PM   #9
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If the railroad lights were not flashing, then the railroad is partly at fault, I would say.
there weren't railroad lights at the crossing, just railroad crossing signs on each side of the road and railroad crossing painted on the road.


there are two people to blame for this, first and mostly the kids. they were stupid.

HEY, LETS STEAL SOME CARS AND JUMP THE RAILROAD TRACKS

the rest of the blame can be put on the parents. maybe if that raging lunatic would have talked to his kids instead of whistling at them like a dog, they might have listened to what he said, and had respect for other people's property. chances are he knew his kids were out of the house and up to no good anyways.

i was an idiot when i was 15 years old, and did a lot of dumb things, but i never once thought of stealing a car.

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Old June 17th, 2007, 02:34 PM   #10
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i wouldn't blame the railroad, its out in the sticks... there is probably nothing out there there probably arn't lights because there is no power out there or something,

2nd off, don't steal someone else' shit... ever.

learn to raise your kids, teach them morals, my parents did that to me and know i'm not dumb enough to steal a car, they know i drink and do other stuff but they trust i'm not dumb enough to drink and drive.
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ya 15 i was a hellen never were my perent thought. at that age you dont care about anythuing but your self. i never stole cars but i have jumped my share of railroad tracks WOW what a rush. IT WAS DUMB, I WAS LUCKY....
bUT I WAS THE ONLY ONE IN CONTROLE. AND IF SOMETHING WOULD HAVE HAPPEND NO ONE WOULD BE TO BLAME BUT ME....
sO I AGREE IT FALLS BACK ON THE DRIVER. HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING ,
JUST DIDNT CARE.
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Old June 17th, 2007, 04:51 PM   #12
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[1] A grieving father is to be given some slack (i.e. get the cameras off the man until he has some time to deal with what has happened). Yes, it's good for ratings, but bad for decency and humanity.

[2] It IS NOT THE RAILROAD'S FAULT. Regardless of the absence of reflectors, lights, or signals, drivers are to adjust their speed to the conditions so if you can't see what's ahead with absolute certainty, then slow it down.

[3] At some point everyone can get rational and draw the most correct and logical conclusion that there's a good reason that 14 and 15 year old kids aren't allowed to drive.
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Old June 17th, 2007, 04:52 PM   #13
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[1] A grieving father is to be given some slack (i.e. get the cameras off the man until he has some time to deal with what has happened). Yes, it's good for ratings, but bad for decency and humanity.

[2] It IS NOT THE RAILROAD'S FAULT. Regardless of the absence of reflectors, lights, or signals, drivers are to adjust their speed to the conditions so if you can't see what's ahead with absolute certainty, then slow it down.

[3] At some point everyone can get rational and draw the most correct and logical conclusion that there's a good reason that 14 and 15 year old kids aren't allowed to drive.
I don't think I could have said it better myself..
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Old June 17th, 2007, 05:20 PM   #14
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[1] A grieving father is to be given some slack (i.e. get the cameras off the man until he has some time to deal with what has happened). Yes, it's good for ratings, but bad for decency and humanity.

[2] It IS NOT THE RAILROAD'S FAULT. Regardless of the absence of reflectors, lights, or signals, drivers are to adjust their speed to the conditions so if you can't see what's ahead with absolute certainty, then slow it down.

[3] At some point everyone can get rational and draw the most correct and logical conclusion that there's a good reason that 14 and 15 year old kids aren't allowed to drive.
I couldn't agree more.
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Old June 18th, 2007, 02:27 PM   #15
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35' skid marks??? How fast were they going?
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Old June 18th, 2007, 03:27 PM   #16
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Well, at least the kids are dead. Too bad the other two didn't join them.
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Well, at least the kids are dead. Too bad the other two didn't join them.
Wow...that is really cold.
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Old June 18th, 2007, 05:07 PM   #18
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Didnt watch the video...

But what a stupid fucking article. "eager to embrace the midweek freedom that only a summer night can offer" /puke

STFU and GTFO
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Old June 18th, 2007, 05:10 PM   #19
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watch the video it's better than the article.
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