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Old April 17th, 2007, 11:45 AM   #21
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Can you use a scanner to diagnose the problem? 125.00 to have the stealership diagnose the problem?
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Old April 17th, 2007, 11:51 AM   #22
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Like Scooter said, weak batteries will do the same thing
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Plug in the block heater.

The description you are giving sounds alot like when the glowplugs are off; you keep cranking and the truck almost starts. You keep doing it in 30 second "blocks" to let the starter cool, it will most likely start.

The compression (from cranking) is heating up the cylinder and helping combustion, but nowhere near as much as glowplugs.

The glowplug relay is on the top of the motor, just left of the fuel filter location - looks like an old ford fender-mounted starter solenoid. You should check to see if you're getting voltages for the switched post when you first key-up. Also, on a good state of battery charge, your OEM dash-mounted voltmeter will drop to about 8V.



Ok. Just had it start, and now its purring like a big kitten.

Turned on the key, waited one minute after the glow plug LIGHT shut off, cranked and the thing immediately fired

Does this mean I only have a couple good GP's?
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Old April 17th, 2007, 01:23 PM   #24
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Not really, it still could be the glow plug relay. There are 2 versions of the relay, 1 is $80 or so and the other is $30 ish IIRC. I used the cheaper of the 2 about a year and a half ago and have had no problems. The mounting plate is rotated 90* but the wires are long enough to reach. I believe gp110 is the exspensive one and gp109 is the cheap one. These are napa part#'s

lot of reading but should set you in the right direction
http://forums.thedieselstop.com/ubbt...=0#Post2647232

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Old April 17th, 2007, 01:34 PM   #25
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Ok. Just had it start, and now its purring like a big kitten.

Turned on the key, waited one minute after the glow plug LIGHT shut off, cranked and the thing immediately fired

Does this mean I only have a couple good GP's?
How many miles?
If over 100k, you should change them. When they go bad, it is possible to overheat the wiring harness that goes to the working glow plugs - when that happens, the harness usually melts and takes out the injector wiring too.
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Old April 17th, 2007, 02:12 PM   #26
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117,483 miles.

I'll order up some new plugs right now. They look like a bitch to replace.


It has a manual trans, and the engineer decided to make Reverse up and to the left? wtf.
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Get the motorcraft/autolite ones from autozone - they are the cheapest and are the best quality; Think it'll be about $100 in parts.

Reverse is up and to the left cause it's a 6 speed and that's how ZF designed it. :tonka:

I changed the glow plugs on mine in about two hours - but I do not have an intercooler, so you'll have more parts to remove/replace.

Also, use a mityvac with a reservoir to siphon out the engine oil from around the plugs before you pull them out - this will keep oild from seepng into the cylinder and the associated problems.

one last thing:
Do not force the glow plugs out if they don't want to unscrew
You will break the tip off and it will fall into the cylinder - then you'll be pulling the head off your new truck. Carbon can build up on the tip of the glow plugs and makes it get stuck on the inside (kinda like a dog knotting with a skank hoe).
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Awesome! Thanks for all your help!
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After you break the glow plugs off in the cylinder and want to sell it as a non running piece of shit, call me
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-and after you fix it up and want to sell it at a loss in 6 months, call me.
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-and after you fix it up and want to sell it at a loss in 6 months, call me.
I didn't know there was such a demand for hazardous liquid and vapor recovery vehicles.
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I didn't know there was such a demand for hazardous liquid and vapor recovery vehicles.
Does this have something to do with "BioGoo"???
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