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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:35 PM   #21
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though if you dont pay for a job no one wants to do... then no one will do it.

I know a few guys that make really good money pumping septics and porta jons because no one will do it for 6 bux an hour, its just not worth it.

Hell even the illegals would probably avoid that
Point taken and a good one! I am just saying that people need to live and plan for what their jobs gives them. I am in constuction and it has good times and bad times, just like the auto industry does. I do my best to plan for peaks in the year, and the low points in a year. Also people tend to build based on the economy and I also ride the fine line of employed or unemployed. Not enough people can see past the ends of their noses. And way too many like to point fingers and blame others when their work goes south.
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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:42 PM   #22
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Old January 24th, 2006, 01:46 PM   #23
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Honestly, ANYONE in the auto instustry, any level, any type of work needs to have a backup plan. This should be the rule for the foreseeable future.

I'd ditch this industry in a heartbeat if I could get the pay. Probably the same thing the factory guys say.

But we all make enough to try to plan some cushion, live a sustainable life, and be prepared for the worst.

I was laid off in 2004, baby on the way, no job, no insurance. I know, though, that I'm marketable, and can find a comparable job at another supplier, so my planning was in accordance to this.

If I was someone who probably couldn't find a comparable job, then I'd be factoring that into the equation.
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Old January 24th, 2006, 02:37 PM   #24
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There has been a lot said about the wage of the UAW factory worker on this site. Most from people who has never experienced it.
I would not say the UAW people are overpaid. My complaint is they act like it is the end of the world when they are asked to have a co-pay. Hell they want their cell phones paid for by the company as well as their laptops. Why not just get their houses paid for as well? Oh wait they do.



My above comment does not apply to ALL UAW workers. I do know first hand that it DOES happen. If I know of 1 or 2 examples of this happening how many more are there?
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Old January 24th, 2006, 03:22 PM   #25
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leave it to the union worker to lead us to believe he was going to do something, and then not follow through

Just kidding, I'm former union. It's the people that abuse it(don't do their work) that need it though.
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Old January 24th, 2006, 03:43 PM   #26
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I don't know exactly what the job you do is FactoryRat, but some job positions do get paid too much.

My Uncle, who lives with my parents, is mentally handicapped. He can actually do alot of things, including driving, holding a job, etc. He just wouldn't be able to live on his own and completely care for himself. He's just what you would call "slow." Anyways, he's worked at Mopar's packaging plant in Centerline for almost 33 years now. All he does are throw parts in boxes...all day. He's salary, and makes in upwards of $50,000 a year. I think it's great he can make that much doing that job, especially under his circumstances. It's great for the employees and the employees families. I do think that he does get overpaid for what he does for a few reasons. It's a manual labor job, and it's not a highly skilled position. I mean honestly, if my Uncle who's mentally handicapped can do it, it can't be a highly skilled position. He does work the entire day, except for the two breaks and lunch hour he gets. Other plants, workers sit on their ass and don't do anything and get paid for it because the union demands it.

The Ford Engine Plant in Romeo is a great example. A few guys I know work there, and they were telling me about how people get paid to do nothing. They'll sit in the lunch room or wherever the entire day and get paid for it. Now that's some horseshit if you ask me.
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Old January 24th, 2006, 03:51 PM   #27
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I work skilled trades at a supplier, and I don't get anywhere NEAR $30 an hour...which is why I'm going to college to get a CAREER instead of a JOB....
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Old January 24th, 2006, 04:01 PM   #28
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I think minimum wage should be 15-20 an hr. I can't imagine trying to live on what it is now. Everyone who wants to work should be able to to support themselves in the process.
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Old January 24th, 2006, 04:03 PM   #29
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I think minimum wage should be 15-20 an hr. I can't imagine trying to live on what it is now. Everyone who wants to work should be able to to support themselves in the process.
Thus driving the cost of everything up. And than you would say minimum wage should be $40 an hour.
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Old January 24th, 2006, 04:17 PM   #30
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Thus driving the cost of everything up. And than you would say minimum wage should be $40 an hour.
Indeed , the circle jerk never ends . as a bussiness owner i have never made 30 dollars an hour . Americans in general think you should live well on 40 hours a week . Lazy i tell you . rare is the week i dont do 60 to 80 hours ya panzy ass kids GRRRRRRR :gman:
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Old January 24th, 2006, 04:27 PM   #31
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Indeed , the circle jerk never ends . as a bussiness owner i have never made 30 dollars an hour . Americans in general think you should live well on 40 hours a week . Lazy i tell you . rare is the week i dont do 60 to 80 hours ya panzy ass kids GRRRRRRR :gman:
how much woulld you have pulled in from that attempted recover before that bolt snapped last night? $1000? after fuel costs what would of been the take home for those 2hrs??

sry just poking the fire, i know you work all hours and constantly but just curious.
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Old January 24th, 2006, 04:50 PM   #32
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I think minimum wage should be 15-20 an hr. I can't imagine trying to live on what it is now. Everyone who wants to work should be able to to support themselves in the process.
Let me toss another angle in on this. What does the above statement say to our youth. "Don't worry about school son, you can make a great living doing any job in america". A large part of the American society is that with effort and education anyone can "get ahead". Anyone can work hard to get somewhere in this world is the "American dream..." the dream is not "everybody has a good life even if they don't want to make an effort."

Oh by the way, anyone that has visited a foreign impoverished country knows that our minmum wage worker doesn't have it as bad. I from the Appalachian hills and I now work in the ghetto. What I saw in Equador and Mexico on a grand scale, is very limited here.

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Old January 24th, 2006, 05:14 PM   #33
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Old January 24th, 2006, 10:08 PM   #34
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I think minimum wage should be 15-20 an hr. I can't imagine trying to live on what it is now. Everyone who wants to work should be able to to support themselves in the process.
Great idea. So what do you do when you arent working for NASA?
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