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Old February 14th, 2007, 08:18 AM   #1
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Default 2004 SD F250 hub question **FIXED**

A guy I work with has a 2004 SD F250 that he is having what seems like hub problems. He has the auto/manual lock hubs. Hes getting a banging noise from the LF and RF. Sometimes together, sometimes individually. It makes no difference if the hubs are in auto or lock.

What have you guys seen out there? Time for new hubs? Are they difficult to change? Any aftermarket upgrades for the hubs (Warn, Superwinch, ect)?

Thanks in advance,
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Old February 14th, 2007, 10:30 AM   #2
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It's a bang or a clunk? I work for a Ford dealer in parts. We sell a ton of ball joints and sway bar links for these trucks. We sell a lot of the hubs too but they usually don't go out in pairs. Is it trying to go into 4x4?? It could also be the vacuum actuator on the passengers side inner fender. I think you're friend is going to need some more diag...
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Old February 14th, 2007, 10:37 AM   #3
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A guy I work with has a 2004 SD F250 that he is having what seems like hub problems. He has the auto/manual lock hubs. Hes getting a banging noise from the LF and RF. Sometimes together, sometimes individually. It makes no difference if the hubs are in auto or lock.

What have you guys seen out there? Time for new hubs? Are they difficult to change? Any aftermarket upgrades for the hubs (Warn, Superwinch, ect)?

Thanks in advance,
Fred
Factory hubs suck. They have an outer body and dial made of reinforced nylon something. The road salt gets in there makes it hard (or impossible) to turn.

The banging noise could be bad ball joints or something else loose. There's a small bearing in the back of the front bearing assembly and I've seen few of those go bad but they don't normall "bang" and it stops when you engage 4WD.

There's a lot of aftermarket hubs available and you can normally get a new pair of hubs for what it would cost for 1 factory hub.

It's not still under warranty, is it?
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Old February 14th, 2007, 10:49 AM   #4
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No, its out of warranty. I asked him about it again. He says, as soon as you engauge 4x4 and a wheel looses traction is when it bangs. He also says that it is a bang,bang,bang, as long as the wheel is slipping. Someone else told him about a vacuum solenoid that goes bad. This is a diesel truck if it makes a difference.
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just took my Dad to drop off his for the same reason.....putting warn hubs on it.....only down fall is you have to get out to lock them in,I will be putting them on mine also in the near future.Factory's are junk and $$$$
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normally get a new pair of hubs for what it would cost for 1 factory hub.
Very true, one Ford hub costs 293.05!! We fight with our Ford rep all the time about their outrageous prices on certain parts.
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I had the same noise on my 2002, after chasing the noise with parts.......it ended up being a combination of a lot of crappy parts on that dana front end.
I ended up changing out all 4 ball joints, (wasted at 90k) the u-joints in the front Drive shaft (80K) and of course the biggest piece of %$#%# wheel bearings (75 to 80K).
When one of these items goes bad, check them all.
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I was just at Jeeper Creepers last week and bought Warn hubs for my 2000 F-250 its also a Diesel, if you are going to put new hubs in the truck I would go this route, they were $188.00 he had them in a day. As for the noise, jack the truck up and check the ball joints they are more then likely SHOT. Bad ball joints in those trucks can cause all kinds of noise's. Mine made that CLUNKING when I was braking, and when I engaged 4x4 it was vibrating and making all kinds of noise. I would start at the ball joints and go from there.
The ball joints are not a cheap fix neither for parts or labor, just a FYI.

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No, its out of warranty. I asked him about it again. He says, as soon as you engauge 4x4 and a wheel looses traction is when it bangs. He also says that it is a bang,bang,bang, as long as the wheel is slipping. Someone else told him about a vacuum solenoid that goes bad. This is a diesel truck if it makes a difference.
The electric vacuum "pump" on those trucks does go bad quite often, but it will either work or not work and won't cause a hub to lock and unlock (it will cause it not to lock at all).

It could be the hub locking, slipping, then unlocking causing the noise but it's really best to check out the front end and see if there are any other suspension components that are bad.
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Old February 14th, 2007, 06:54 PM   #10
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OK, thanks for all the replies. He is going to look into it tonight. I will post up what fixes it. Sounds to me like its the hubs.
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He looked into it last night. Its the transfer case. The plastic sliders/guides on the 2wd/4wd shift fork were worn away. That in turn caused the syncro/hub not to fully engauge causing it to strip (the noise he was hearing)

Ford has an updated shift fork. That and the other pieces were right around $400. This will get his T-case fixed. I am wondering if it was just the fork that failed or is it the shift motor that caused the problem.

Is there a learning proceedure for the shift motor??

More info when he gets it back in.
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He put it back in. Talked to a Ford guy, and was told there isn't a learning proceedure. He said its shifts in faster and quieter than it ever has.
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