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Old January 31st, 2007, 09:18 AM   #1
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that our society has done this...

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Old January 31st, 2007, 07:17 PM   #2
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its sadder that I wasted my time watching 3 minutes 54 seconds before I hit alt-f4
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Old January 31st, 2007, 07:20 PM   #3
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its sadder that I wasted my time watching 3 minutes 54 seconds before I hit alt-f4
Thanks CC. I won't even waste my time then.
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Old January 31st, 2007, 07:33 PM   #4
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is this gl or digg?
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I assume by "our society" you mean "white society". I agree that it's sad that black people seem to have such a low opinion of themselves but since when is it the white peoples job to make black people feel good about themselves? If anything I think they have failed themselves.

I am proud of my German roots. I'm also proud that those roots were smart enough to get out before the crazies took over. If people with African roots aren't proud of those roots thats just not my fault.
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Old February 3rd, 2007, 08:11 PM   #6
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I assume by "our society" you mean "white society". I agree that it's sad that black people seem to have such a low opinion of themselves but since when is it the white peoples job to make black people feel good about themselves? If anything I think they have failed themselves.

I am proud of my German roots. I'm also proud that those roots were smart enough to get out before the crazies took over. If people with African roots aren't proud of those roots thats just not my fault.
The reason they feel that way is because of what white society has done to them, apparently you don't get it. Years of oppression that still aren't over, don't just get erased.
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Old February 3rd, 2007, 08:28 PM   #7
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The reason they feel that way is because of what white society has done to them, apparently you don't get it. Years of oppression that still aren't over, don't just get erased.
You're right, I don't get the whole "white quilt" thing.
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Old February 3rd, 2007, 09:04 PM   #8
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The reason they feel that way is because of what white society has done to them, apparently you don't get it. Years of oppression that still aren't over, don't just get erased.
Describe this oppression, and tell me exactly who the oppressor is. I think you'll find it's self-inflicted.

Many of us have oppression in our past. Irish immigrants, indentured servants, Italian immigrants, Chinese immigrants, eastern european immigrants, etc... However, it's not genetic - we get over it.

Society likes olive-skinned 6' guys with narrow waists and "inverted triangle" torsos, high cheekbones and thick, wavy hair.

I, however, am a 5' 7" bald, pale irish guy with bad vision, a barrel chest, and no neck.

Oh well - although I am damn studly I apparently don't fit society's vision of a good-looking guy. Good thing I didn't decide to make a living as a male model.
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Help, help, I'm being oppressed! --random peasant (MP&THG)
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That clip is full of a "WHAAAAAAAA, poor me" attitude! Whaa f'ing whaa! Your life is what you make it!
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Old February 4th, 2007, 11:10 AM   #11
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Describe this oppression, and tell me exactly who the oppressor is. I think you'll find it's self-inflicted.

Many of us have oppression in our past. Irish immigrants, indentured servants, Italian immigrants, Chinese immigrants, eastern european immigrants, etc... However, it's not genetic - we get over it.

Society likes olive-skinned 6' guys with narrow waists and "inverted triangle" torsos, high cheekbones and thick, wavy hair.

I, however, am a 5' 7" bald, pale irish guy with bad vision, a barrel chest, and no neck.

Oh well - although I am damn studly I apparently don't fit society's vision of a good-looking guy. Good thing I didn't decide to make a living as a male model.

well, it started waaaaaaaaay back...there was this thing called the SLAVE TRADE! White Europeans wanted slaves to work on plantations in the Americas. They considered poor whites, but they would get lost in the shuffle too easily if they escaped. They considered Native Americans, but they knew the land too easily and had support in other tribes who would back them up. Then they came up with Africans, because they would be from a foreign land and their skin color was excellent for identifying them.

previous to the slave trade, their wasn't the racism towards blacks like their is now.

The racism towards blacks was put into motion by a few white europeans in order to make the whole enslaving them justifiable. They came up with all this stuff about how they were inferior and less than human to make it seem like not as big of a deal to completely ruin their lives. Eventually people took to it. So, before this, their wasn't the racism issue that we have today. It continued on, after slavery was finally abolished, whites still held the sentiment that blacks were lower and inferior to whites and hated the idea of integration with them, here came the "jim crow/segregation laws" and the lynchings. This lasted for quite some time. Now the racism isn't nearly as obvious anymore, but it's still there. A lot of people are realizing the insanity of the past, but a lot aren't. A lot of people need to realize that stuff doesn't just go away. There is still a lot of that "blacks are inferior" sentiment in this country and this is what causes these girls to feel about themselves the way they do.
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That clip is full of a "WHAAAAAAAA, poor me" attitude! Whaa f'ing whaa! Your life is what you make it!
shhhhh thats how mike sove lives his life, dont make fun of him.
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Old February 4th, 2007, 12:06 PM   #13
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Fucking Please...I didn't watch the clip and don't need to do that to understand the content.

I wish I was a black woman so I could start/buy a business, which would become double minority owned and I would have guaranteed fucking business


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Old February 4th, 2007, 12:29 PM   #14
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ugly people are oppressed

so.

YOU as a human have total and absolute control over whether or not you give a rats ass about what society thinks about YOU.

and duffman is sexy...
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Old February 4th, 2007, 12:43 PM   #15
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Its only a big deal if thats what you make it... but anyway, not my problem. it sucks that people stress over little BS. I dont care what anyone thinks of my afro.....
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Damn skippy.
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they go and interview depressed black people that wanna blame other people for there problems. thats b/s makes for a good vidio thou.
i know black people that are proud to be black. most of them are. we had very few in petoskey and they were all treated the same
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well, it started waaaaaaaaay back...there was this thing called the SLAVE TRADE! White Europeans wanted slaves to work on plantations in the Americas.
Big deal, this slave shit is nothing more than a crutch......Not a single living black american has been enslaved by a single livin person in this country today. Period. Slavery has been gone for over 100 years now, and I dont think that anyone is proud that it was prevalent in this country. It's called time to move on.

Secondly, White Europeans were not the only group of people to enslave others - Egyptians, Romans, Chinese, Greeks, Arabs, (the list could go on) all enslaved people who were not of African American decent. Do you hear any of those people crying about it today? No, because they realized that although it did affect people of their heritage in the past it doesn't affect them today, as already stated Your life is what you make it.......like I say, get over it. You don't see me crying about how opressed I am because I can't get a full ride to school like people of minority decent can

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previous to the slave trade, their wasn't the racism towards blacks like their is now.
Bullshit. You think racism today is as bad as it was 50 years ago? I think that although racism still does exists, it's much better than it has been in the past. Sadly, I dont think racism will ever totally disappear (and just so you know, there are plenty blacks who hate us honkey's as well)

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There is still a lot of that "blacks are inferior" sentiment in this country and this is what causes these girls to feel about themselves the way they do.
there are still plenty of things in this country that have the same "whites are inferior" sentiment as well - do you see us crying?
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Bullshit. You think racism today is as bad as it was 50 years ago? I think that although racism still does exists, it's much better than it has been in the past. Sadly, I dont think racism will ever totally disappear (and just so you know, there are plenty blacks who hate us honkey's as well)
When do you think the slave trade happend? It was more than 50 years ago.
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So, just how many years have to pass before slavery is behind us?

I'm pretty confident that there are no surviving slaves or slave owners.

The government that allowed slavery was destroyed over 140 years ago. btw, under this government, only approximately 3% of the population owned slaves.

We've spent 40+ years providing everyone that looks like they could've been a slave with preferential treatment as far as access to education and other benefits.

Where does it all end? We can never legislate that people have to like one another. Attempts to use preferential treatment to attone for past sins just provides more fuel for the haters, since I'll offer that the vast majority of racism today is driven by the (accurate) perception that one group is being favored over another.
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