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Old September 1st, 2014, 12:25 PM   #21
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Q: Is it true that George W. Bush took more vacation days than Barack Obama?

A: Yes. Before his two-week trip to Martha's Vineyard in August, Obama's count was 125 full or partial days and Bush's total at the same point in his presidency was 407.

Our inbox is chock full of questions about who took more vacation days, Obama or Bush. (The short answer: Bush. The long answer: There's no such thing as a true non-working vacation for the president.)

The recent barrage from our readers coincides with Obama's 15-day family vacation on Martha's Vineyard he returned to the White House on Aug. 24 which occurred during major news events including the beheading of a U.S. journalist by Islamic militants and protests in Ferguson, Mo., after a police officer shot and killed an unarmed 18-year-old black man. The vacation also occurred during the funeral of Maj. Gen. Harold J. Greene, the only general officer killed in Afghanistan.

Obama faced criticism for being on vacation during these times, but those types of complaints are nothing new either to Obama or presidents in general.

Readers may recall the criticism directed at Bush for the August weeks spent at his ranch in Crawford, Texas. Others may remember Democrats chastising Dwight Eisenhower for spending time on the golf course.

We last dealt with the who-took-more-vacation question in January 2010, at which point Obama had spent 26 days on "vacation" during his first year in office, fewer than the first-year totals for George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush or Ronald Reagan. Our numbers are all courtesy of CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller, who has covered every president since Gerald Ford and tracks the commander in chief's travel.

But, as we noted then, presidents never fully escape from the job. Knoller told us he doesn't consider these days away from the White House real "vacation" days. He said then in an e-mail: "I have long held the view that a US president is never really on vacation. The job and its awesome powers and responsibilities is his wherever he is and whatever he's doing."


George W. Bush carries his dog Barney into his pickup truck before driving back to his ranch house after meeting the press in Crawford, Texas, on Aug. 13, 2003.(Photo: Gerald Herbert, AP)
Bush officials called the Crawford ranch the "Western White House" to emphasize the days there involved plenty of official business, and Obama's recent Martha's Vineyard break included several presidential statements and two days spent back at the White House in the middle of the "vacation." Presidents may clear brush or hit the links, but they are never actually off the clock.

Still, much is made of these presidential vacation days and how to count them. Knoller doesn't include visits to Camp David, the presidential retreat in Maryland often used to host foreign leaders. On Aug. 8, the day before Obama left for Martha's Vineyard, Knoller tweeted that Obama had spent 125 full or partial days on vacation, and at the same point in Bush's presidency, he had spent 381 days at his Texas ranch plus 26 days at his parents' home in Kennebunkport, Maine, for a total of 407.

When we e-mailed Knoller on Aug. 26, Obama was up to 140 days by his count. Bush's total for his two terms in office is 533 days, which includes 490 at the ranch and the rest at Kennebunkport. For comparison's sake, Bill Clinton's total is 174 days, and Reagan hit 390 (349 at his ranch and 41 in Palm Springs), according to Knoller.

Adding in Camp David visits would bring Obama's total to date to 223 (that's 83 days at Camp David) and Bush's total for his entire time in office to 1,024 (491 days at the presidential retreat). Note that Obama still has more than two years in office to narrow the gap.

Deciding how to count these "vacation" days can create some confusion. CNN recently listed a count of 879 days for Bush and 150 for Obama, numbers that came from a Washington Post "Outlook" piece on "Five myths on presidential vacations." (Myth No. 1: "Presidents get vacations.") The 879 figure, it turns out, is from March 3, 2008, at which point Bush had spent that many days at the ranch and Camp David (but it doesn't include days in Kennebunkport). The numbers are in a 2008 Washington Post piece and attributed to Knoller.

If readers want to make an apples-to-apples comparison, the best solution is to use Knoller's figures as of Aug. 8, cited above: Bush, 407; Obama, 125. But the numbers say more about how many days the presidents spent away from the White House than they do about how much time the presidents spent not working.

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Bush was critizied for golfing after 9/11 and if I remember correctly, he did not play golf after that while being president.
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It Is Amazing The People Vote A "insert racial slur here" Into Office. And Then Complain Because He Acts Like A "insert racial slur here"
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Cry me a river..again they knew what is was they were getting into...people shouldn't be allowed to run for office and campaign, you should be nominated by the people for the people, not nominated by a defunct political party, but the people have their heads so far up their collective asses it would never work. It just amazes me anyone could call themselves a democrat or a republican
Not only did he take over a tough job he took control of a sinking ship. Guess what happens when things are not going right here ? My boss puts us on seven days eight if he could cancels all vacations cuts pay if that's what it takes.
This ass monkey should be like every other person in America . Go in do your job extra if you have to get the place in order THEN reap the rewards for your hard work. This is how you get respect.
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Not only did he take over a tough job he took control of a sinking ship. Guess what happens when things are not going right here ? My boss puts us on seven days eight if he could cancels all vacations cuts pay if that's what it takes.
This ass monkey should be like every other person in America . Go in do your job extra if you have to get the place in order THEN reap the rewards for your hard work. This is how you get respect.
Sinking ships need repair. What this ass monkey did was got out the cutting torch and cut a huge hole in the hull. We are now sinking faster than before.
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Sinking ships need repair. What this ass monkey did was got out the cutting torch and cut a huge hole in the hull. We are now sinking faster than before.
Right it WAS savable before the ass monkey now it look grim .
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In an interview that aired Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," Obama said he "should have anticipated the optics" because "part of the job is the theater of it," conceding "it's not something that comes naturally" to him.

Obama strongly condemned the killing, saying "the entire world is appalled by the brutal murder of Jim Foley." Minutes later, he was photographed golfing, which caused critics to accuse him of insensitivity.

Isn't that pretty much a definition of insensitivity?
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