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Old June 10th, 2014, 10:56 PM   #1
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Obviously I know It won't be cheap, it runs and drives now, and I am fine with it, but i am looking to build a 400+ hp 4k miles a year reliable truck. The plan is drive it as is, and build a motor and trans with a 2k budget a year over the next 2 years. So basically want to build a 400+ HP 351 windsor, and an AOD for about 4K, If need be I will go another year and add more $$ to the plan.
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Make it Carb... New intake... Cam... Headers... There's multiple ways about going with this...

You can also bore out the motor and shove in a HC piston to run pump gas 93 only and watch it come to life...
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Ford SVT used to sell a crate engine that was about 400HP. My buddy spent $5K to duplicate it. I'm not sure if it is still available.
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6.0 LS Swap with a cam... will have a very reliable/high reving 400 hp motor with lots of potential for well under 2k.
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6.0 LS Swap with a cam... will have a very reliable/high reving 400 hp motor with lots of potential for well under 2k.
Nowhere near under $2k. This makes a nice swap into Fox mustangs, tho.
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6.0 LS Swap with a cam... will have a very reliable/high reving 400 hp motor with lots of potential for well under 2k.
I will pay you $2K for a high revving 400hp 6.0L with a cam and everything required to swap into any vehicle.

you sound like a used car salesman
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I will pay you $2K for a high revving 400hp 6.0L with a cam and everything required to swap into any vehicle.

you sound like a used car salesman
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I will pay you $2K for a high revving 400hp 6.0L with a cam and everything required to swap into any vehicle.

you sound like a used car salesman
yup, right up to the point you learn that healthy 6.0 you bought is only a 4.8
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Would you have any interest in a 347 stroker than ran 10.50's in an 87 fox body @ Milan?
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Nowhere near under $2k. This makes a nice swap into Fox mustangs, tho.
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I will pay you $2K for a high revving 400hp 6.0L with a cam and everything required to swap into any vehicle.

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yup, right up to the point you learn that healthy 6.0 you bought is only a 4.8

Really? Because the LQ9 in my truck now was 600 bucks and runs flawlessly.

Nice Cam= $400 (estimate new)

LS Carburated Intake= $350 (summit website)

Carburator= $500 (estimate new)

MSD Box to run factory coil setup= $400 (summit website)

Besides little misc shit.. that's $2,250.... thats with all new parts except for the motor.... there was a guy selling a 6.0 LQ9 already had a cam, intake, carb, and MSD box on Craigslist. Motor had 90k on it. He was asking 2500 for a month or so before dropping the price and then finally selling it.
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Really? Because the LQ9 in my truck now was 600 bucks and runs flawlessly.

Nice Cam= $400 (estimate new)

LS Carburated Intake= $350 (summit website)

Carburator= $500 (estimate new)

MSD Box to run factory coil setup= $400 (summit website)

Besides little misc shit.. that's $2,250.... thats with all new parts except for the motor.... there was a guy selling a 6.0 LQ9 already had a cam, intake, carb, and MSD box on Craigslist. Motor had 90k on it. He was asking 2500 for a month or so before dropping the price and then finally selling it.
I'm not shoving a carb on a LS
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Really? Because the LQ9 in my truck now was 600 bucks and runs flawlessly.

Nice Cam= $400 (estimate new)

LS Carburated Intake= $350 (summit website)

Carburator= $500 (estimate new)

MSD Box to run factory coil setup= $400 (summit website)

Besides little misc shit.. that's $2,250.... thats with all new parts except for the motor.... there was a guy selling a 6.0 LQ9 already had a cam, intake, carb, and MSD box on Craigslist. Motor had 90k on it. He was asking 2500 for a month or so before dropping the price and then finally selling it.

You forget flywheel... Torque Convertor... Bell housing to make the AOD work... Shifter... And if he didn't want to use the AOD... Now he needs a transmission... And drive shafts... List goes on and on and on...

The best bet for his situation is to stick to the SBF and transmission he has... $$$ for $$$ a Windsor will also beat the "All mighty LSx"...
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I'm not shoving a carb on a LS
Why not? Just curious... Not trying to be a dick or start anything...
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Why not? Just curious... Not trying to be a dick or start anything...
fuel mileage, tuning, efficiency, i don't have a mullet, I'm not driving a carbed truck around 4K miles per year, The poster isn't asking about a drag car.
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fuel mileage, tuning, efficiency, i don't have a mullet, I'm not driving a carbed truck around 4K miles per year, The poster isn't asking about a drag car.
Never said you had a mullet... Seen plenty of street cars with LSx's in them with carbs... Each to his own...
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Really? Because the LQ9 in my truck now was 600 bucks and runs flawlessly.

Nice Cam= $400 (estimate new)

LS Carburated Intake= $350 (summit website)

Carburator= $500 (estimate new)

MSD Box to run factory coil setup= $400 (summit website)

Besides little misc shit.. that's $2,250.... thats with all new parts except for the motor.... there was a guy selling a 6.0 LQ9 already had a cam, intake, carb, and MSD box on Craigslist. Motor had 90k on it. He was asking 2500 for a month or so before dropping the price and then finally selling it.
Misc little shit adds up fast. If you are doing a cam swap of any value, then you also need springs & retainers, should do new pushrods, and really should do some of the gaskets, new crank bolt, new timing chain as a minimum. If you are getting a $600 motor, its probably got a lot of miles on it. I'd add lifters and lifter trays, oil pump to the list. You've got $1000 in parts there for the cam swap. Depending on the year of the motor, its recommended to go to the heaviery LS2 timing chain with the heavier valvesprings. More $$$.

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I'm not shoving a carb on a LS
They run fabulous with them, and an MSD box to control the coil packs. Not my thing, but carb guys love the setup.
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