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Old June 2nd, 2014, 01:29 PM   #41
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Maybe the schools are not teaching how to fill out applications?
fawk no they're not. your lucky if a school teaches you how to do a proper resume. I just had to take a senior level english class at ferris that included doing a resume conver/thank you letter for a project. The way the teacher (60 year old, bat shit crazy lady that's been teaching for 30 years) "taught" the class a proper resume made me physically sick
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I believe schools lack in resume / job application skills.

My schooling did not address financial and money management either. These are critical areas everyone needs to know about.
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That is absurd.

They stopped teaching any sort of trade work when my son was in school, auto shop was a joke - they just did oil changes on teachers' cars.

Too much 'college prep', it's also important to know how to apply for the career you are training for.
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I had an auto class in high school that was extended day, mon and wed we'd be in the class from 1:30 to 7:30, we'd take in customer work and do, G.O.Fs, tires, steering/susp, gaskets....pretty much everything that didn't involved engine hoists. They canceled the class beacuse the school said it wasn't usefull for students.....

That kind of thinking and not allowing teachers to teach kids proper accounting, like checks, how banking works credit cards....etc is why we have generations of pure stupid.

Kickstands original post is proof of that....I bet the chick think she got the job 4 sure
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I always thought that the Communications Class I had freshman year was a joke and worthless but we did do stuff that showed us how to make a resume, cover letter and thank you letter. Kettering is partly focused on getting people co-op/real jobs though.
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I always thought that the Communications Class I had freshman year was a joke and worthless but we did do stuff that showed us how to make a resume, cover letter and thank you letter. Kettering is partly focused on getting people co-op/real jobs though.
Did you have Erwin? He made you eat that shit for breakfast. Luckily, there were kids that didn't care in that class (the 1-2 term KU students), so his focus was on them...

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I believe schools lack in resume / job application skills.

My schooling did not address financial and money management either. These are critical areas everyone needs to know about.
That wasn't really taught in school in the 70's either, financial matters were the responsibility of the parents.
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I'm sorry but money management and applying for jobs are something your parents should have taught you guys. Your parents failed you if they relied on schools to teach you those things.
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I'm sorry but money management and applying for jobs are something your parents should have taught you guys. Your parents failed you if they relied on schools to teach you those things.
There's no reason a school shouldn't address these areas. Basic money management skills can be taught by parents but a class or some classes regarding interviewing, resume's and money management would help. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of families don't know the different types of investment options since a lot of families live paycheck to paycheck.
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Did you have Erwin? He made you eat that shit for breakfast. Luckily, there were kids that didn't care in that class (the 1-2 term KU students), so his focus was on them...

Ex army drill instructor, nuff said.
I had Gebhart... It was a really easy class which made it feel even more like a joke.
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I'm sorry but money management and applying for jobs are something your parents should have taught you guys. Your parents failed you if they relied on schools to teach you those things.
This.

My son at least uses online resume builder sites so he comes off better on paper. Just too bad that when he moved out of the house he went apes hit on tattoos.
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I'm sorry but money management and applying for jobs are something your parents should have taught you guys. Your parents failed you if they relied on schools to teach you those things.
I agree that parents need to take responsibility for their kid's education...but kids are required to attend school until 12th grade, so that required education should include necessary life skills. They could cut out half the teaching of algebra to kids and sub in banking, (proper) economics and financial responsibility and the country would be 100% better.

There's kids that I attend class with (junior/seniors) that don't understand what unemployment is, or how the difference between salary and hourly is. The can do calculus though
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If they can already do calculus, they probably won't have to worry about unemployment or have difficulty figuring out how to balance a checkbook
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I agree that parents need to take responsibility for their kid's education...but kids are required to attend school until 12th grade, so that required education should include necessary life skills. They could cut out half the teaching of algebra to kids and sub in banking, (proper) economics and financial responsibility and the country would be 100% better.

There's kids that I attend class with (junior/seniors) that don't understand what unemployment is, or how the difference between salary and hourly is. The can do calculus though
I don't think they need to cut out half of algebra (what are they going to cut out? never looking at graphs ever again?) to get those types of lessons to students.

At my high school you could take a class that was one semester and it went over banking and financial responsibility but its optional. They would never make it a mandatory class to take because the rest of the class wasn't necessarily as important. It took about 2 weeks out of the class and it was really useful if you payed attention.

And your statement about making the country 100% better is absurd. Its not a new problem, its not only the young generation that have horrid money management. How many adults do you know that don't have a retirement plan or live paycheck to paycheck and are in debt up to their eyes? learning about banking isn't going to fix our issues.
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If they can already do calculus, they probably won't have to worry about unemployment or have difficulty figuring out how to balance a checkbook
But do they understand that an ATM is not a magic endless money machine? I know several people of all ages that struggle with that concept.

Money management should be taught in basic math. Instead of figuring out how many apples Johnny has, why not count how many nickles and dimes?
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You really think it's the dumb kids taking calculus in high school? Get real.
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What comes to mind is the resistance of the younger generation to rely on their spell check to create proper grammar.
WTH??? Spell check? Why not pay attention in grade school? It really annoys me that my kids' generation is so lazy. I am always understaffed because I won't hire idiots.
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You really think it's the dumb kids taking calculus in high school? Get real.
Not sure if you were referring to my post, but I do know someone that is brilliant with math, but clueless on value. He had bought several new cars before he found out you did not have to pay sticker. (Cue Hank Hill reference)

Finances were just more numbers to him. As lo g as the numbers in the bank account were larger than what he spent, he was happy.
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Not sure if you were referring to my post, but I do know someone that is brilliant with math, but clueless on value. He had bought several new cars before he found out you did not have to pay sticker. (Cue Hank Hill reference)

Finances were just more numbers to him. As lo g as the numbers in the bank account were larger than what he spent, he was happy.
Money management as it is being discussed is not negotiating purchase price on a vehicle. It is saving money, investing in your 401k, etc.

There are complete fucking morons out there who can't figure out how to do anything but flip burgers at McDonalds who can manage their money very well and there are CEO's of organizations who make hundreds of thousands of dollars each year that are flat broke because they can not manage their money.

You can't "teach" money management in school, you can't force people to do it, it is a learned behavior you should inherit from your parents. It's kinda like saying we should teach morality in school. You either picked up on how to not be a scumbag growing up, or you didn't no amount of high school credits are going to change that.
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You really think it's the dumb kids taking calculus in high school? Get real.
Common sense, I have met many people who are very smart, and do not have it.
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