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Old May 9th, 2014, 08:33 AM   #1
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I am looking to build an off-road jeep. My main use would be for off road use. I am looking at the Cherokee or Grand Cherokee platform as I have a family of 5 and need a seat for everyone. Any info would be appreciated.

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Old May 9th, 2014, 08:38 AM   #2
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5 seats?
Offroading?
Suburban or Excursion would be my choice.
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The XJ Cherokee is a full size 4x4 on the outside, and a mid size on the inside.
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Do a 2" body lift, Spring over on both axles and put 35's on it.

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Do a 2" body lift, Spring over on both axles and put 35's on it.

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37's if you trim.
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Leaf spring lift shackles are where it's at rite now. Ask @Sol Goode, he will hook you up.
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ZJ for factory 4 link and coil setup. Also cheaper upfront purchase price. Option of V8 or the almighty 4.0. Look for tow package vehicle so you get 3.73 gears rather than less desirable 3.55. Better interior than XJ. Iron rock offroad and clayton offroad for everything mild to wild. Just my .02 they are both great options (XJ & ZJ) with tons of aftermarket although less with the WJ.
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Pros and cons of each platform
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5 seats?
Offroading?
Suburban or Excursion would be my choice.
Too heavy and too long, I will have 3 kids in the back ranging from 4-11
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ZJ for factory 4 link and coil setup. Also cheaper upfront purchase price. Option of V8 or the almighty 4.0. Look for tow package vehicle so you get 3.73 gears rather than less desirable 3.55. Better interior than XJ. Iron rock offroad and clayton offroad for everything mild to wild. Just my .02 they are both great options (XJ & ZJ) with tons of aftermarket although less with the WJ.
Any issues with drive train for the v8's. I had an 04 wj and an 06 wk. I loved the 04 and hated the 06 due to the awd. I like the option of 2 high, 4 high and 4 low

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Any issues with drive train for the v8's. I had an 04 wj and an 06 wk. I loved the 04 and hated the 06 due to the awd. I like the option of 2 high, 4 high and 4 low
Engines seem to run very long. Transmissions just like in the 4.0's are iffy but cheap to replace. I wheeled a 4.0 ZJ with the 249 AWD transfer case that nobody seems to like and never had any issues with stock axles (locked rear) and 33's. I never drove my jeep on the road so the 2wd wasn't really necessary to me. My jeep never left 4LO. And the AWD in the 06+ is not close to the same as AWD in the ZJ's.
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Forget them all. Buy a wagoneer.
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Forget them all. Buy a wagoneer.
Would love to have a wagoneer. Dont know if my 1500 Ram Hemi will tow it. I am sure it would, but would it do it safely loaded down with the family
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Would love to have a wagoneer. Dont know if my 1500 Ram Hemi will tow it. I am sure it would, but would it do it safely loaded down with the family

Sure it would
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Wagoneer really aren't all that heavy in comparison to a v8 grand cherokee.
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I have a 02 Grand Overland. 4" Zone lift. 32" JK tires. Drive it every day. 3.73 gears from the factory along with limited slips. Family of 5. I can fit 3 car seats across the back with room in the cargo area for luggage (although the tire needs to go on the outside). Mostly do light trail riding with it.
I am now starting to think about the Wagoneer / Cherokee platform.
As mentioned, a V8 WJ weighs about 4400lbs. FSJ is less than that. XJ is about 3500lbs.
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Would love to have a wagoneer. Dont know if my 1500 Ram Hemi will tow it. I am sure it would, but would it do it safely loaded down with the family
A friend of mine has a 1500 Ram with a Hemi and tows his TJ on a trailer along with a full size tuck bed camper without any problems. Just towing a Wagoneer wouldn't be an issue
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Tug my family of five every day in a 04 wj.
I also daily drive a 99 wj. Haven't wheeled it yet, but had an xj and had plenty of room for all three kids , wife, 33" spare, cooler, chairs, tools , and fluids.
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