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Old May 2nd, 2014, 10:56 PM   #41
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Old May 2nd, 2014, 10:59 PM   #42
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How about something like this?

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That's a pretty good price for that. My neighbor down the street had one for a few years before he got into boats. Weighs next to nothing, he towed it with his Harley. Takes all of 5 minutes to set up, and that includes popping a beer.
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We used the shit out of our pop up. But it had 2 queen beds with heated mattresses, bathroom, shower and a slide out. It was huge.

I would much rather be in one of these instead of a tent. Not including the screen room, I could set the thing up myself in under 15 minutes. Way less if the wife was helping.

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Really, putting up the tent isn't as bad as taking down the tent.
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I hated the truck camper. Once you get where your staying an unpack. Your truck is now useless. Kinda hard to runaround to the store etc. A trailer you can unhook and take your truck to town etc... with more then one person the truck campers are tight and uncomfortable. Pita to load and unload.
i drove around with mine on, no problem. heck my wife would drive with it even.
if i was gonna be in the same spot more than a 2 or 3 days, i would drop it.
i loved my tc, it was a great way to camp. for 2 people it was fine, that is it!
i still wanted to tow also, that limits my options.
ours was fairly big, and brand new though.
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Chad, your driving distances definitely change the mileage dynamics. I was thinking more within state. We only used the borrowed pop up one time and one thing we definitely noticed was that we had to be more careful packing what we wanted access to and what we didn't. When tenting, everything is available in the back of the truck/van, whatever. When packing stuff in the popup, we discovered we had things packed in locations that didn't allow easy access and we ended up having to open it up a couple times. I'm sure with practice that would change.
The major advantage I see in any type of solid camping rig is the ability to have full access at any time. When we travel long distances out of state, we have quite often stopped for lunch at a roadside park. Even in the rain, we can cook and eat at our table, and hit the road without much effort, which is a cost savings over being forced to eat at some form of resturant. Same with pulling into a rest area to catch a few hours of sleep. A popup will not allow this.
Like a tent, if you close it up wet, you will have to set it up at home to dry out. I think that was the other dislike I had about it. I envisioned coming home from a rainy weekend, busy/bad weather all week and if you wanted it the following weekend, you were setting up a camper that was already wet inside. So, I would offer that I was looking at the "glass half empty" side of pop up ownership. The advantages of a good bed off the ground and established counters/stove/sink make a lot of sense.


Based on the comments of those that have used them more than me, and your family needs, it seems like a worthy test bed. (pun intended )
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I've camped for more years than I can remember and I've owned many different campers and tents. My recommendation is a small travel trailer with a rear hard slide, not the canvas hybrid system and bunks/bike storage in the front. They have A/C, lightweight, and will accomplish your goals. They are made by Jayco and this article is the best I could find to show an example. They run around $7000 used.

http://www.roamingtimes.com/rvreport...l-trailer.aspx

Here is a used one for sale but priced higher then it's worth, in my opinion.
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/rvs/4422708413.html

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pop-ups came in two models, hard-sides and canvas sides. If you can find a hard-side, you might find it a bit easier to set up.

I'd never buy a new pop-up though. Resale is hard to get back.

Pop-ups trump tents for comfort during rain, and for seating space.

If your interested, my friend Gilbert has a neighbor, who has a pop-up sitting outside his kitchen window, and we can go grab it. Apparently they haven't used it in years, and it just sits there.
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I'd love to have one of those little campers that I could pull behind my TJ. Never drink and drive again!
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Good thread, I've often wondered the true pro's and con's of each configuration. I doubt I'll be buying anything, but a guy can dream.

My experiences, even though they probably aren't helpful to Chad.
90% of my camping is in a tent. We all know the downsides of that, but to me that's what "real" camping is. My in laws also have a 30' bumper pull camper that almost never gets used, and I've borrowed that a few times. The comfort, space, climate control, weatherproofing, and overall convenience are awesome. Hell, we took it to a friend's cabin in Kalkaska for New Years a couple years ago cuz we had too many people to all fit inside the house. 10 degrees outside and we were all nice and comfortable in the camper. But it tows like crap over 60mph or so, gets pushed all over the road and drops fuel mileage way down....feels like towing a sailboat with the sails up. The convenience once we get to the location is great, but it's annoying to tow with, doesn't fit into tight areas easily, and once I finally finish my Jeep I can't tow that and the camper. Since I can't afford a nice gooseneck with a camper on the front and Jeep in the back, looks like I'll be tenting it for now.
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Chad, one thing I'll mention if you do decide to go with a pop up, especially if it's an older unit.... Thoroughly inspect the canvas for mold and mildew, wear and tear and any other degradation. It is expensive to have that all redone.
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seems like everyone wants to stay with me, and i know its not because they like me. they are merely using me for the camper
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its going to take a LOT of nights in a hotel to overcome the cost of a pop-up, additional fuel, additional maintenance on the trailer, fixing little shit that always breaks, etc.

Don't get a pop-up because you are thining it will save you money

If you want a popup because you would rather camp, and your friends/competitors also camp, so its more fun time with them; or you want to camp because it is a good experience with your kids, then I agree, get a camper. But dont fool yourself into thinking it will be cheaper or easier than a hotel. It wont be. Hot/muggy/buggy/cold/rainy/sleety trips will suck. You will wish you were in a hotel with a nice shower and hottub the night after a race.
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its going to take a LOT of nights in a hotel to overcome the cost of a pop-up, additional fuel, additional maintenance on the trailer, fixing little shit that always breaks, etc.
I would agree, sort of. A good pop up can be had for under $2500. Shit rarely broke on my dads, but everyone is different. Set up was a breeze, it was nice to have everything you wanted in the trailer and not to have to worry about dragging all your crap into a hotel. At $100 a night for a hotel, you could recoup your costs quickly....if you use it.
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I have camped for a week at a time in a tent, and the same amount in the TransVan.

If the weather dips below 50 degrees or rains, TransVan wins.

If temps get above 75 at night, TransVan wins.

I've borrowed a pop up a few times, I could not get comfortable on the crappy foam they call a mattress. I much prefer my canvas cot. We put an air mattress in the TV and it was OK-ish, but not firm enough for my back.

Just something to consider.
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Chad, your driving distances definitely change the mileage dynamics.
Big time.

This year we have 12,000 miles of driving to races planned. That's a solid chunk of gas money.

My thought was I could maintain 15mpg (hopefully).

A regular camper trailer would easily put me at 8mpg, espescially once we get into the mountains/hills.

So with the same mileage, I'd sleep more comfortable than I do in a tent, have a cook top, small fridge, etc. I don't need or want the complexity of AC/Heat, nor do I really care too much about freshwater, outside of the convenience of being able to clean up some dishes.

That's approximately $3500 in hotels, the cost of a reasonably nice used pop up. But more comfy than a tent.

As for your comments on packing the pop up, that's not a concern, we won't be stopping for lunch or anything along the way often, most of our drive time is late night, everyone in the truck is usually sleeping but me. (we leave thursdays after work and return late sunday after races and awards)
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I've camped for more years than I can remember and I've owned many different campers and tents. My recommendation is a small travel trailer with a rear hard slide, not the canvas hybrid system and bunks/bike storage in the front. They have A/C, lightweight, and will accomplish your goals. They are made by Jayco and this article is the best I could find to show an example. They run around $7000 used.

http://www.roamingtimes.com/rvreport...l-trailer.aspx

Here is a used one for sale but priced higher then it's worth, in my opinion.
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/rvs/4422708413.html
A tow behind camper is well out of the budget I am willing to spend, and will drop my fuel mileage to a point that would make it completely cost innefective. At that point we'd just stick to hotels/condo's.

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pop-ups came in two models, hard-sides and canvas sides. If you can find a hard-side, you might find it a bit easier to set up.

I'd never buy a new pop-up though. Resale is hard to get back.

Pop-ups trump tents for comfort during rain, and for seating space.

If your interested, my friend Gilbert has a neighbor, who has a pop-up sitting outside his kitchen window, and we can go grab it. Apparently they haven't used it in years, and it just sits there.
I have thought about going and stealing it, but I think he'd know it was me

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Good thread, I've often wondered the true pro's and con's of each configuration. I doubt I'll be buying anything, but a guy can dream.

My experiences, even though they probably aren't helpful to Chad.
90% of my camping is in a tent. We all know the downsides of that, but to me that's what "real" camping is. My in laws also have a 30' bumper pull camper that almost never gets used, and I've borrowed that a few times. The comfort, space, climate control, weatherproofing, and overall convenience are awesome. Hell, we took it to a friend's cabin in Kalkaska for New Years a couple years ago cuz we had too many people to all fit inside the house. 10 degrees outside and we were all nice and comfortable in the camper. But it tows like crap over 60mph or so, gets pushed all over the road and drops fuel mileage way down....feels like towing a sailboat with the sails up. The convenience once we get to the location is great, but it's annoying to tow with, doesn't fit into tight areas easily, and once I finally finish my Jeep I can't tow that and the camper. Since I can't afford a nice gooseneck with a camper on the front and Jeep in the back, looks like I'll be tenting it for now.
This was 100% helpful. This strengthens my opinion that a camper trailer is NOT the route that we want to go and will not work for us.

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Chad, one thing I'll mention if you do decide to go with a pop up, especially if it's an older unit.... Thoroughly inspect the canvas for mold and mildew, wear and tear and any other degradation. It is expensive to have that all redone.
I was curious how well the canvas held up and how much it is to replace/patch. I figured it was not cheap.

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its going to take a LOT of nights in a hotel to overcome the cost of a pop-up, additional fuel, additional maintenance on the trailer, fixing little shit that always breaks, etc.

Don't get a pop-up because you are thining it will save you money

If you want a popup because you would rather camp, and your friends/competitors also camp, so its more fun time with them; or you want to camp because it is a good experience with your kids, then I agree, get a camper. But dont fool yourself into thinking it will be cheaper or easier than a hotel. It wont be. Hot/muggy/buggy/cold/rainy/sleety trips will suck. You will wish you were in a hotel with a nice shower and hottub the night after a race.
A lot of the places that we stay we can camp for free in the parking lots. A lot of the places we race are pretty remote and hotel options are expensive, like no super 8's for $65 a night expensive, more like, you're at a ski resort where all the options are $400 a night expensive. It will certainly save some cash for some trips, but not for all.

Also, like you mentioned, many of the other racers camp, so that's a part of why we'd like to camp. A lot of the locations that offer free camping in the parking lots also offer access to the pool/hot tubs and showers for racers, so that's not typically a major problem. But things to consider.
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We basically inherited my parents pop up... They had the canvas replaced around 2000 when it got damp and rotted out. They had storage insurance on it but IIRC it would've cost them over a grand had they not
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