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Old February 19th, 2014, 01:49 PM   #1
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is there a place local to southeast michigan that will rent out heavy duty goosenecks?

my dad was going to drive our duece and a half up here from texas, but hes having problems with the engine temp after a new radiator install. Not sure whats going on. maybe water pump crapped coincidentally. cant help him right now since I am up here.

SO, thinking about renting a trailer and going and bringing it home for him. But cant find a trailer. thoughts/suggestions? anyone know of a company?
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Old February 19th, 2014, 02:17 PM   #2
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I'm not sure where you can rent a trailer like that. You need a SUPER light 16k# gvwr trailer. Even with that not knowing the truck you plan on pulling with I don't see how you will stay under 26k. Now let say you have your CDL (idk) what is the gcwr of the truck you plan to tow with?
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what are you planning on using for a tow pig? you are going to be around 18k with just a trailer and the duece
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Old February 19th, 2014, 02:30 PM   #4
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what are you planning on using for a tow pig? you are going to be around 18k with just a trailer and the duece
The truck in my avatar...






















a 2013 f350 6.7 crew cab long bed.
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Old February 19th, 2014, 02:31 PM   #5
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a 2013 f350 6.7 crew cab long bed.
Do you have a CDL? What's tht truck rated for and what does it weigh?
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Old February 19th, 2014, 02:34 PM   #6
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Do you have a CDL? What's tht truck rated for and what does it weigh?
no clue. gooseneck weight is 24k it looks like. dunno what it weighs in at.

the deuce weighs in at 13k I believe

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I think you are biting off way more that you can chew. With no CDL you don't have a chance of being remotely legal. Figure my 02 dodge 2500 ext can long bed diesel is 7,023lbs on the scale empty. Plus 13k for the deuce out you at 20k so if everything including the trail can weight in at 6,000 or less you will be under CDL. Now I KNOW that truck weighs more than my truck so I just don't see it happening.

Can the truck pull it? Sure. Can it pull it safely? Possibly, depends on the trailer condition. Will a deuce on a goose neck behind a 1 ton pick up draw the attention of EVERY DOT officer between here and Texas? You bet your sweet ass it will.
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Old February 19th, 2014, 02:44 PM   #8
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Looks like max towing capacity is 15,900 lbs for your truck.
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Old February 19th, 2014, 02:45 PM   #9
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if you find a trailer i have a FC170 that needs to go to the Denver area, that will help with the fuel bill!
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Looks like max towing capacity is 15,900 lbs for your truck.
So you need a trailer tht weights less than 2,900lbs. Won't happen.
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Old February 19th, 2014, 02:47 PM   #11
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Looks like max towing capacity is 15,900 lbs for your truck.
bumper pull. I pulled my stats straight off the ford site for 5th wheel/gooseneck... (24k)...
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I think you are biting off way more that you can chew. With no CDL you don't have a chance of being remotely legal. Figure my 02 dodge 2500 ext can long bed diesel is 7,023lbs on the scale empty. Plus 13k for the deuce out you at 20k so if everything including the trail can weight in at 6,000 or less you will be under CDL. Now I KNOW that truck weighs more than my truck so I just don't see it happening.

Can the truck pull it? Sure. Can it pull it safely? Possibly, depends on the trailer condition. Will a deuce on a goose neck behind a 1 ton pick up draw the attention of EVERY DOT officer between here and Texas? You bet your sweet ass it will.
Why exactly would he need a CDL if he is using a personal truck to move his own stuff? A CDL is for someone hauling commercially. I pulled a 40+ foot long gooseneck all over the place including to Texas and back. I did not need a CDL. I was pulling my own shit with my own truck. As long as your tires aren't over loaded you are good to go legally. Would I tow a deuce and a half behind a SRW pickup on a big gooseneck trailer from Texas? Not a chance in hell.
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http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...superdtypu.pdf

14k bumper pull 15.9k fifth wheel that is max loaded trailer weight. You must be looking at gcwr which is 23.5k
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Quickly looking a 16k goose neck is going to weigh in at 5,500 (20+5) to 6,250 (25+5)

Figuring the 20+5

Deuce 13k
Trailer 5,500
Misc 200 (I'm guessing maybe more).
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18,700 lbs

This leaves you 7,300 for truck weight.
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right on the link you posted it says 5th wheel towing "up to" 24,700... thats where I got it from.



Not saying this is the best option. I am just going over my options. I cant even find a trailer. So this idea my be null and void anyway...
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Why exactly would he need a CDL if he is using a personal truck to move his own stuff? A CDL is for someone hauling commercially. I pulled a 40+ foot long gooseneck all over the place including to Texas and back. I did not need a CDL. I was pulling my own shit with my own truck. As long as your tires aren't over loaded you are good to go legally. Would I tow a deuce and a half behind a SRW pickup on a big gooseneck trailer from Texas? Not a chance in hell.
On the federal level, any vehicle over 26,001 needs a CDL except...

Farmers
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Military in military trucks
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Up to means for a properly equipped truck. There is a chart to follow based on the design of your truck ie cab size, srw drw, 2wd vs 4x4.
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right on the link you posted it says 5th wheel towing "up to" 24,700... thats where I got it from.



Not saying this is the best option. I am just going over my options. I cant even find a trailer. So this idea my be null and void anyway...
24.7k is for the f-450.
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Old February 19th, 2014, 03:11 PM   #19
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I would think by the time you rent a trailer and pay for fuel, you could have someone haul it up for close the same price. Or better yet pay a mechanic in Texas to fix it.
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Put it on uship and see where the bids come in. I used it once when I needed to move my FSJ from Richmond to Bay City on short notice. Worked out well and ended up being under $200. If I remember right, you can see where the bids come in and you aren't obligated to go with any of them if you don't like the estimates.
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