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Old January 26th, 2014, 10:43 PM   #1
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Hello I'm starting to build a pulling truck, its an 86 GMC crew cab, how ever there's one thing I can not for the life of me decide on should I make it a short box dually or leave it alone and have a monsterous truck I've looked at pics of them one day I like it one day I don't what do you guys think ?
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Old January 26th, 2014, 11:39 PM   #2
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By puller truck do you mean a tow rig or an actual truck pull hooked to a sled deal? Towing keep long bed, more stable, more room for crap, usually better riding. Pulling truck, short bed. So you can get more weight transfer to back tires and shorter driveshafts.
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Old January 27th, 2014, 06:16 AM   #3
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By puller truck do you mean a tow rig or an actual truck pull hooked to a sled deal? Towing keep long bed, more stable, more room for crap, usually better riding. Pulling truck, short bed. So you can get more weight transfer to back tires and shorter driveshafts.
Seems to me they put about 10,000 lbs of weight over the front bumper to keep the front end down for "Pulling Trucks". Longer wheel base for pulling as far as "weigh transfer" goes. BTW, there is no weight transfer, that requires an acceleration to happen. But you are right about the drive shaft length. Either way, I say short box, dually, stacks, truck nutz, howling wolf rear window sticker, chrome wheels, air horn and stripper mud flaps.
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Old January 27th, 2014, 06:57 AM   #4
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Seems to me they put about 10,000 lbs of weight over the front bumper to keep the front end down for "Pulling Trucks". Longer wheel base for pulling as far as "weigh transfer" goes. BTW, there is no weight transfer, that requires an acceleration to happen. But you are right about the drive shaft length. Either way, I say short box, dually, stacks, truck nutz, howling wolf rear window sticker, chrome wheels, air horn and stripper mud flaps.
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Old January 27th, 2014, 08:25 AM   #5
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Old January 27th, 2014, 07:31 PM   #6
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Pulling truck as to pull a trailer not competition towing, but I'm leaning toward keeping the long box but i forgot to mention its getting a Cummins and straight axle Dana 60 also maybe I could put my rhino in the back of it lol here's my donor truck
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Old January 28th, 2014, 09:31 AM   #7
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long bed all day long. if you short box it, then you get into slide hitches for 5th wheel stuff and they are no fun. I run an 03 dually long bed and it is the best t ruck I have ever bought for towing!
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long bed. no contest. you wouldn't believe what you can do with 2 extra feet.





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Cool thanks for helping I already have a goose neck in it so I agree on all your opinions she will stay a long box I'll keep ya posted on further progress looking to start putting the Cummins in it in the next few weeks
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Cool thanks for helping I already have a goose neck in it so I agree on all your opinions she will stay a long box I'll keep ya posted on further progress looking to start putting the Cummins in it in the next few weeks
Good, you will be more competitive for truck pulling this way too.
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Long bed. Might as well its already long. Where abouts in Luther are you located. My family has 35 acres on kings highway just south of carrieville store.
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I grew up on kings hwy and live just off from kings hwy lol
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Pulling truck as to pull a trailer not competition towing, but I'm leaning toward keeping the long box but i forgot to mention its getting a Cummins and straight axle Dana 60 also maybe I could put my rhino in the back of it lol here's my donor truck
Make your "ramps" long enough to set the front and rear tires on. Drop the tailgate and you can stuff a rhino in there. Just install a few tie downs that run to the frame and are flush to the bed then compress the suspension.

With that 20' long truck maintaining a long bed may limit your trailer choices. In most states the maximum combined length is around 60 feet. Running a 5th wheel will keep you under 60'.
Where you will notice the long bed is when you are hanging over in a parking spot without the trailer.
I have had a crew cab long bed before and while I loved the truck I was using a bumper pull car hauler.
Making a tight turn in my "4-40" required constantly swinging wide. Installing steering assist is a highly recommended upgrade.

The truck looks cool as heck as it sits and the body looks amazing for the year. It will be interesting to see what you choose powertrain wise behind the diesel.
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What is steering assist???
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that donor truck looks too nice to be a donor truck.
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 10:05 PM   #17
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Yeah I picked up the donor truck off craigslist it wasn't supposed to be that nice it was a Florida truck but not terrible shape really its fun to drive though lol, as for my dually that was my winter project last year it runs good now with the 454 but gas mileage is not so good, after I get the motor out of the dodge I will see what parts that are good and try to sell as much as I can before it goes to scrap,
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Old February 2nd, 2014, 10:09 PM   #18
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I drove down to Ohio Saturday and got a 47rh tranny kinda excited now ordered a flywheel, big thanks to wayne94gt for the tranny nice guy great doing business with him for sure
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The maddness has started lol, less than 3 hrs the motor and tranny are out
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Motor is out
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