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Old January 15th, 2014, 08:35 AM   #1
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A 68-year-old man was shot and killed by a Michigan State Police trooper Tuesday night while the trooper was responding to a possible 911 hangup call, the Michigan State Police has confirmed to the Ludington Daily News.

The trooper said the man pointed a gun at him when he arrived on the scene at the Dennis Road residence and that he shot the man, who died later at the hospital.

The shooting occurred around 11 p.m. Tuesday.

Troopers were called to the scene of a possible 911 hangup call.

"As the trooper contacted occupants of the residence, a 68-year-old male confronted the trooper with a weapon," police stated. "The trooper fired one shot, striking the suspect."

The man was transported to Spectrum Health Ludington Hospital.

Troopers were assisted at the scene by the Mason County Sheriff's Office, the Ludington Police Department and Life EMS.

The Michigan State Police mobile crime lab crew has cleared the scene.

The area is still cordoned off.

State police are required to follow strict guidelines in the discharge of weapons, the agency stated.

"MSP policy permits officers to point or discharge a firearm in self-defense or defense of another when he or she reasonably believes there is imminent danger of death or great bodily harm," the agency stated.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 08:37 AM   #2
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I don't see an issue here. Looks like it was a good shoot by the Trooper.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 08:41 AM   #3
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Looks like common rules of engagement applied successfully here.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 08:42 AM   #4
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Old January 15th, 2014, 08:48 AM   #5
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I agree... If the trooper fired 15 times, then I could see a problem...

911 hang up? Husband beating wife, wife calls 911, husband takes phone away... At least that's the way I read it.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 08:51 AM   #6
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I agree... If the trooper fired 15 times, then I could see a problem...

911 hang up? Husband beating wife, wife calls 911, husband takes phone away... At least that's the way I read it.
Kind of how I saw it too. Not enough information to make that determination though. It's just a guess.

What we do know is that a guy pointed a firearm at a State Trooper responding to a hang up call at the residence. Trooper put him down. Pretty clear cut right there. Glad the Trooper was able to act fast enough to make it home to his family that night.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 09:29 AM   #7
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Saves the tax payer a chunk of money as well. I know the area but not the man. Others who do say he was odd but not that far out there.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 11:02 AM   #8
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Saves the tax payer a chunk of money as well. I know the area but not the man. Others who do say he was odd but not that far out there.
did he live alone? or married?

regardless, if he pointed a gun, then the SP did right
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Old January 15th, 2014, 11:07 AM   #9
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Old January 15th, 2014, 11:28 AM   #10
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Good job. He did what he was trained to do.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 11:30 AM   #11
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I'm seriously wondering if PaperMan didn't get the response he was looking for when he made this post.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 11:31 AM   #12
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Kind of how I saw it too. Not enough information to make that determination though. It's just a guess.

What we do know is that a guy pointed a firearm at a State Trooper responding to a hang up call at the residence. Trooper put him down. Pretty clear cut right there. Glad the Trooper was able to act fast enough to make it home to his family that night.
Not to argue but we don't know that the guy pointed a firearm at the trooper.

In any case I feel for the troopers family and the family of the man shot. I won't speculate but until details come out I won't place fault on the man. Given current details the officer did his job.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 11:37 AM   #13
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Not to argue but we don't know that the guy pointed a firearm at the trooper.

In any case I feel for the troopers family and the family of the man shot. I won't speculate but until details come out I won't place fault on the man. Given current details the officer did his job.
That's very true.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 12:11 PM   #14
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I posted it as we seen to have a fair amount of folks looking into and talking about shootings in the state.

I have been talking with a few on some details the locals are dishing out. Seems the 911 call wasnt placed by anybody at that home. The mans dogs were going ape shit so the Mrs. answered the door and told the old man the cops were here. He came to the door with a gun and the rest is up in the air.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 12:18 PM   #15
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I posted it as we seen to have a fair amount of folks looking into and talking about shootings in the state.

I have been talking with a few on some details the locals are dishing out. Seems the 911 call wasnt placed by anybody at that home. The mans dogs were going ape shit so the Mrs. answered the door and told the old man the cops were here. He came to the door with a gun and the rest is up in the air.
Hmmm... Guess we'll just have to wait and see what details come out.
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Yeah with this added hear say info the original story doesn't add up. At this point lets hope for the best possible out come. Any update on the mans condition?
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Old January 15th, 2014, 12:32 PM   #17
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Not to argue but we don't know that the guy pointed a firearm at the trooper.
the article says he did.

I don't care why the trooper was called the the house. Point a gun at anyone and you can expect to be shot. I don't care if it was the trooper or the neighbor or a lost nun.
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Old January 15th, 2014, 12:33 PM   #18
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Maybe he was doing a gran torino?
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Old January 15th, 2014, 12:34 PM   #19
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Yeah with this added hear say info the original story doesn't add up. At this point lets hope for the best possible out come. Any update on the mans condition?


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Old January 15th, 2014, 12:36 PM   #20
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The second a firearm is pointed at someone... both lives are now on the table. All that matters in both of their world's is who pulls the trigger first. The man that wants to live more is the one who will walk away. The aftermath is up for debate but we weren't there and it's long been known that the media is probably the worst source of information on these matters.
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