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Old January 13th, 2014, 07:13 AM   #1
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Default Steering and popping*** found the problem

Jeep specs:
2000 TJ
Stock 30 front
Stock 44 rear
Stock 3.73 ratio
2" lift
1" body lift
Curry heavy duty steering kit

The problem:
The tie rod is slightly bent. Has been for about 2 months. With all the snow recently I have been using the 4 wheel drive on snow covered roads to get back and forth from work. Approx 10 miles round trip. I did pull off and play in some deep snow the other day also. I know not to run 4x4 on dry pavement or turn sharp in 4x4. Over the past week the steering has randomly got tight while in 2 wheel peel on dry pavement. It also gives a pop once in a while while turning. It almost acts like it's in 4x4 but the t-case lever is in 2 wheel drive and the 4x4 light isn't on.

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1. Get to the end of my road and stop. While stopped I turn the wheel to the right and it is tight. Suddenly I hear and feel a pop from the front end. Suddenly the steering is nice and loose and turns freely as usual.

2. Driving down a residential road and turn left onto another road. Steering becomes tight and Jeep wants to go straight as if it is on ice. I stop and turn the steering wheel harder to the left. I hear the steering pump working it's ass of but the wheels don't want to turn. When I let go of the steering wheel it wants to go back to straight. I wrap a cord around the steering wheel and close it in the door so it can't move. Get out and both wheels are slightly turned left at approx the same degree. I back up and complete the turn. Everything seems to be good.

What gives? I know something isn't right but don't know where to start. Any ideas?

Update:
Apparently I broke my spider gears. Pulled it apart this evening and things didn't look to good. Teeth in the bottom of the pig.

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Old January 13th, 2014, 07:29 AM   #2
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Old January 13th, 2014, 07:35 AM   #3
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Sounds like it's still in four wheel drive.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 10:06 AM   #4
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x2 on the axle u joint. One may be binding..
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Old January 13th, 2014, 10:25 AM   #5
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If your tie rod I bent I would make sure it's not hitting anything
It almost sounds like it is binding on something
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I ran out and looked at the axle joints real quick before lunch to see if there was anything obvious (like falling apart). I found my passenger side JKS disco had come of (the bolt at the top backed it's way out). Quickly removed both disco's (haven't drove it since) I didn't see anything else blatantly obvious. I don't think the tie rod is the issue because it is only slightly bent in the middle and was that way for a while before this problem started. It is not in 4x4, at least not when I checked yesterday on my icy driveway. Is it possible that it is slipping in and out of 4x4? Is there a easy way to check if axle joints are binding?

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After pulling my disco's off I went to leave work. I made a hard right out of my parking space with no problems. Drove about 75 feet and started to make another hard right while slowly rolling. The steering locked up so I stopped. I turned the wheel all the way to the left with no problem, then back to the right and it only went as far as it did the first time (not far). I backed up about 3 feet and the steering freed up so I pulled up over the curb that was only about 10 feet away. As soon as the back tires hit snow they started to spin so I know it isn't in 4x4.

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Is your steering shaft worn and binding?
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I ran out and looked at the axle joints real quick before lunch to see if there was anything obvious (like falling apart). I found my passenger side JKS disco had come of (the bolt at the top backed it's way out). Quickly removed both disco's (haven't drove it since) I didn't see anything else blatantly obvious. I don't think the tie rod is the issue because it is only slightly bent in the middle and was that way for a while before this problem started. It is not in 4x4, at least not when I checked yesterday on my icy driveway. Is it possible that it is slipping in and out of 4x4? Is there a easy way to check if axle joints are binding?

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After pulling my disco's off I went to leave work. I made a hard right out of my parking space with no problems. Drove about 75 feet and started to make another hard right while slowly rolling. The steering locked up so I stopped. I turned the wheel all the way to the left with no problem, then back to the right and it only went as far as it did the first time (not far). I backed up about 3 feet and the steering freed up so I pulled up over the curb that was only about 10 feet away. As soon as the back tires hit snow they started to spin so I know it isn't in 4x4.
Definitely sounds like a bad axle joint.
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Update:
Apparently I broke my spider gears. Pulled it apart this evening and things didn't look to good. Teeth in the bottom of the pig.
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Thats not good! Lol i have a few sets of spiders laying around if u need a set $10

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Thats not good! Lol i have a few sets of spiders laying around if u need a set $10

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Thanks for the offer but I'm gonna have Big B put a Spatan up front. Kill 2 birds with one stone. No more spiders and go more places. I hear that Twelve Oaks and Sumerset have some great wheeling opportunities but I wasn't confident in going without a locker
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Thanks for the offer but I'm gonna have Big B put a Spatan up front. Kill 2 birds with one stone. No more spiders and go more places. I hear that Twelve Oaks and Sumerset have some great wheeling opportunities but I wasn't confident in going without a locker
Sounds good thats why i have extra spiders im running a aussie in mine

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How do you like the driving manners of your Aussie? More specifically, how do you like the drivability in snow? I've got two friends that say it's no big deal, maybe a little learning curve but not bad. I see a lot online about how miserable they are in snow . I tend to believe my friends
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How do you like the driving manners of your Aussie? More specifically, how do you like the drivability in snow? I've got two friends that say it's no big deal, maybe a little learning curve but not bad. I see a lot online about how miserable they are in snow . I tend to believe my friends
Well the only time i have driven mine in the snow was after i welded up the rear axle and it was a nitemare to drive it does tend to pull from side to side

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