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Old December 31st, 2013, 07:35 AM   #181
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Good plan. You are leaving out a vulnerable spot. (same spot I have) If you are leaned up against a tree on your front fender, the transition from there, across the cowl to the A pillar is unprotected. Lots of guys have crushed cowls on their jeeps.
Yeah I had that bar from the 'A' pillar to the fender scrub bar. I didn't like how it looked. Too 'monkey bar-ish'. I'll keep tying to get it in.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 07:48 AM   #182
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I agree I don't like the way it would look. Probably better the way you have it.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 07:54 AM   #183
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Run the fender bar behind the fender skin.
It wouldn't save the fender, but it would give the structural support without looking all exo.
Anyway to run a cross brace through the cowl, below the skin?

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Old December 31st, 2013, 08:46 AM   #184
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Run the fender bar behind the fender skin.
It wouldn't save the fender, but it would give the structural support without looking all exo.
Anyway to run a cross brace through the cowl, below the skin?

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Vic,
I thought about that but I have very little concern over the structural integrity of that lower 'A' pillar.
It didn't even get phased in the endo crash. That portion of the body is where the inner fender/cowl/door mount/dash all come together in a boxed fashion. There's probably 8 to 10 layers steel joined at multiple points and double layered. PLUS there's the addition of the door as a vertical structural member.
If you look at the pic you can see the 'A' pillar unphased. A point to recognize too is the fact that point is the point of impact when the truck catapulted and went over. As you can see the 'A' pillar is flattened
It's not at all like a Jeep where there's just a few layers and a relatively open 'unboxed' construction.
Unless I could keep the fender from getting squished, putting a bar under it as you pointed out, doesn't save the fender.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 10:37 AM   #185
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I understand what you're saying.
Makes sence.
I like your design.
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 02:17 PM   #186
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So I drug my feet this winter because I couldn't exactly decide how I wanted to do this. Then Memorial day trip crept up on me faster than I realized ...... so I never got it done and I sit here in the shop while Indy and Lucas are up enjoying the wilds of Canada. UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's what I got so far for the internal stuff. Enternal coming next once I tie up the inside.
The 'youngin is dead set on me boring a hole through my tumblehome rail to tie to the B hoop but I'm going to hold off till I know exactly how I'm going to tie the outer bar to the inner bar and more importantly, have it NOT LEAK.
As long as I'm tied to the structure of the roof and to the A pillar (brick shit house) I figure I'm tied in well enough for any type of roll over I hope will NEVER happen.
Here's the inside so far. I've got the C hoop tied to the C pillar. Same with the B hoop. I had to give up the adjustable seat belt pivot for the driver and passenger and lock it to the top spot. I don't figure that's a bg deal though.
More pics when I get a bit farther along.
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Old May 23rd, 2014, 02:45 PM   #187
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this and ur black one were two of my favorite builds ever. glad to see it almost redone. good work man. maybe see you out on woodward again this year?
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Old July 6th, 2014, 09:46 PM   #188
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Three weeks of traveling on the road for work sure takes a bite out of getting stuff done after work hours. So we're back at it. Got the inside cage done including the fence. Sorry no pictures till I get it finished welded and painted. While I got all the carpet and body panels out I plan on sending it back to Ziebart and having the once over done, but this time you can get at ALL the panels prone to rust on these things. This include the rocker panels. This 'replacement' body was clean but NOT rustproofed when new like the 'Tracker 1.0' was. I've just tried to ba proactive as possible and keep it coated every year.

Next it's on the exo part of the cage. We tried to keep it tight to the 'A' pillar and follow the body profile. We nailed it pretty good. The roof bar is nearly as tight but I wanted to follow the profile as best I could. Next it was a debate on how to tie it in. I was trying to be practical (and simpler)......the 'youngin' was NOT having it! He thought we should do a sculptured profiled monocoque design. Mind you this takes at least 5 times as long but looks killer when done. So after some sketching and laying it out we have something that looks pretty good. You can see the initial makings of it in the 'arrow' you see at the corner of the 'A' pillar and the roof bar. It will take shape as the dimple dies get set in and the profile gets boxed in and tied to the roof plates. Also shown is the tie-in to the 'A; pillar that occurs under the fender skin. That will then tie into the frame near the fender side bar rie-ins. More to come in the next few days.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 08:33 PM   #189
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Very nice.
Typical high detail build for you guys.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 11:26 PM   #190
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Thanks Dale, I appreciate your 'trained eye' comment.
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Old July 8th, 2014, 05:40 PM   #191
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Jim where did you get the swing away mirrors
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Old July 9th, 2014, 11:42 AM   #192
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Pretty cool eh! They are off of Suzuki Vitara's. Somewhere in the 2000-2002 era. I found them in a junk yard. They are a plug and play including the inside electric adjustablity.
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Old July 9th, 2014, 12:31 PM   #193
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Old July 10th, 2014, 07:11 AM   #194
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A little 'dimple' action on top. 0.065 thickness Cr/Mo sheet metal with 0.090 tubes. (only because I had Cr/Mo 0.090 here)



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Old July 10th, 2014, 08:22 AM   #195
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those look bad ass.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 07:28 AM   #196
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Nice job Jim.
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Old July 14th, 2014, 06:53 AM   #197
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More updates from a long weekend.......
July 23 is 'Got-to-be-done' date so pressure is on. Some of the internal cage is in paint so that part will be safe. It's the external stuff that's taking the time.

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Old July 21st, 2014, 06:06 AM   #199
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For those of you who know the artistry and difficulty of TIG welding you might appreciate this picture. Ran out of gas last night. Refilled today and only 10' more feet of that to go and we'll be in paint.
95GEO in action
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Old July 23rd, 2014, 06:46 PM   #200
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Absolutely beautiful rig! So much nicer in person then the pictures show.

Very nice talking with you today.

Maybe next year I'll have a rig done to show off.
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