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Old December 17th, 2013, 11:35 AM   #21
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Well, this thread has made me decide not to get back into RC, all my stuff is 20yrs old and I would go broke upgrading.

I would love to see these little fukkers run though!
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Old December 17th, 2013, 11:47 AM   #22
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Well, this thread has made me decide not to get back into RC, all my stuff is 20yrs old and I would go broke upgrading.

I would love to see these little fukkers run though!
I was out of the hobby for years and when I got into it I was like a crack head looking for my next fix. Over the years few years I have bought so many cars and so on. I have to say my HPI SC5 on 3S lipos is insane. It doesn't help either that my friend owns a hobby shop dubbed the "local crack house".
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CC SV3 and the Velineon is as well. I will not buy anything that isn't waterproof. Even if you don't plan on running in snow and water, it is nice to have the peace of mind. I am running the Mamba Monster2 in my Losi 8ight T, it has been indestructible so far but, is way to much power for a Slash.

Here is the SV3 it is much cheaper than the Velineon system.

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Old December 17th, 2013, 12:20 PM   #24
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My 11 year old runs a Rustler VXL on Lipo's with not much problem... he has crashed it a few times and parts do break, but that's how he learns how to fix it..and upgrades are fairly cheap so as the weaker parts break you replace them with upraded/metal parts and then you find out what the next weak link is, etc. As you've already established, you can run the Nimh batteries just fine if you turn off the low voltage stop. We went Lipo for him not for speed, but for run time. It's amazing what kind of run time some of the Lipo's get compared to the charge, run 10 minutes, charge, run 10 minutes game I played when i was a kid!
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Old December 17th, 2013, 12:31 PM   #25
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ok, you guys are all starting to talk a bit over my head, which is why i'd much rather these damn RC trucks both just disapear over night.

Am I just looking to replace the speed control and motor and then I am good to go?
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Old December 17th, 2013, 12:43 PM   #26
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If you are buying the system separate, I would not recommend the Velinion setup. It's just too expensive for what it is. If you are looking for something out of a local shop, you'll pretty much have to just go see what they've got. If you are looking to order online, then hobbypartz.com isn't a bad place to order. This link will take you straight to the motor/esc/programming card combos. 13.5 and 17.5 combos are both $120.

Honestly any setup should work fine, though if it's for younger ones I wouldn't go too crazy, no lower than 13.5T. Also, pay attention to the Turn rating, a 1/10 motor may not be a full 540 size motor even though it appears to be. Whole numbers (13T or 17T) are usually a smaller armature, and can usually be told visually by deeper fins on the motor can. Half numbers (13.5T or 17.5T) are true 540 size motors, and usually have smooth cans or very shallow fins.

Either way, I would definitely recommend Lipo. Hell, you may wanna do that first, since that will actually make the stock Titan a fair bit quicker on it's own, though it will also let you burn the Titan up quicker as well.
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I've had about every type of RC rig over the past 20 years, and the only thing I would even consider running a brushed motor in anymore is a crawler.

I have had really good luck with Castle products. Their ESCs can be programmed on your PC, or you can get a field card and do it whenever. For a 2wd Slash/Rustler/Stampede the Sidewinder series do a great job. Reasonably inexpensive, and if you get the SW3 (the latest version), it is water resistant, which for bashing is very nice.

With motors, you don't really have to worry about the sensored vs. unsensored issue with what you are doing. With that ESC, any unsensored motor will work great. The stock Traxxas "blue can" one is a 3500 kV motor. You can get a combo with the Castle setup with 3800kV, 4600 kV, 5700 kV, etc.

What the kV value on a motor is is the RPM per input voltage. So, for example, if you run a 2S LiPo battery (LiPos are 3.7V per cell, or "S", the 2S is a 2 cell battery), and a 4600 kV motor, you will run 34040 RPM (4600 x 7.4). The motors with "turns" on them refer back to the days when all motors were brushed, and it referred to the way the armature was wound. They try to assign a turn value to brushless motors more as a reference. I'd still look up the kV ratings on all motors before I buy them to be sure. So, when deciding what to get, you have to decide where you will be running the trucks. If you have wide open space, and a lot of straightaway area, a higher kV motor will get you more top end. If you have a smaller area, or a small track, or indoor track, then the lower kV is a better option.

For my Slashes, I ran Sidewinders with 4600 kV motors and 2S LiPos, and they were plenty fast. My boys are 11 and 7, and they work great for them. If you want to share equipment, then just get a 3S battery for yourself, and you will get a 50% increase in your RPMs =)

I personally try to buy ESCs new, because enough of the used ones have been overheated or mishandled. Motors on the other hand I've bought used and had good luck. You can also look on eBay, etc, for some of the second tier vendors (TenShock, HobbyWing, etc) for motors. I run TenShocks in a few rigs and they work great so far.
Thanks, based on these two posts I went with the 11.5T kit in the link guitardude linked me too.

Here's to hoping I can figure out how to set them up.
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ok, you guys are all starting to talk a bit over my head, which is why i'd much rather these damn RC trucks both just disapear over night.

Am I just looking to replace the speed control and motor and then I am good to go?
Yes. Go with Castle creations, it's a well known company with a decent trade in program if you damage anything. Also the brushless speed control can be programmed and used on a brushed motor. If you use your nimh battery then program the speed control for them (no auto voltage cutoff).

If you want ship them to me for a disappearing act lol.
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Just my .02 but, those combos are the same price as a CC SV3 combo. If it were me I would stick with CC and get a waterproof combo.
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Just my .02 but, those combos are the same price as a CC SV3 combo. If it were me I would stick with CC and get a waterproof combo.
Too late, I probably should have paid a bit more attention.

Damn holidays and getting shit for the kids is stressing me out.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 01:26 PM   #30
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Too late, I probably should have paid a bit more attention.

Damn holidays and getting shit for the kids is stressing me out.
Ahh, aren't the holidays great........
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Kickstand let me know if you need help. Not to keen on the hobby wing stuff but hey we can make it work.
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castle motors in everything i run. no problems and i drive them hard.
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I love the support cc has, getting hobbypartz to stand behind anything is a pita.
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For just a beater/basher the Traxxas VXL system can't be beat....it is bolt in and operates the same way the XL5 brushed system runs. as long as your are using the Traxxas connectors the entire system will be plug and play with your current batteries. LiPo is the way to go, but if you are not ready to up grade the batteries you have will work.
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Didn't even think about battery connectors. You will need to pick up a Traxxas connector for the ESC. Pretty simple to solder on or your hobby shop could probably do it.
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Update? Get them converted?
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No. I have been with out power since Saturday night. Haven't even touched the trucks.
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