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Old December 13th, 2013, 04:24 PM   #181
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The number of ORV's you've seen on the road doesn't even come close to the number of slow drivers you have been stuck behind throuought your life time.
It seems to me this guy is butt hurt. I am guessing he can't have one so nobody should is the situation.
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Old December 16th, 2013, 11:52 AM   #182
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I wrote my congressman from Fenton - Rep. Joseph Graves (District 51). And I got a response back. I would like my other Fenton residents to do the same.

"Dear Craig,



Thank you for contacting my office regarding your concerns with Senate Bill 491. I appreciate you taking the time to write to me about utility-terrain vehicles and this proposed legislation.



As you may know, Senate Bill 491 was introduced by State Senator Jack Brandenburg. If passed, this bill would not allow vehicle registration for off-road vehicles made only for off-road use, regardless of modifications.


Currently, this bill has been referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure of which I am not a member of. However, on the House floor I sit next to Representative Wayne Schmidt who chairs the transportation committee. I will be sure to have a conversation with him about this bill and share your concerns with him.



Again, thank you for contacting my office. If I can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me. Merry Christmas to you and your family as well.



Respectfully,



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Old December 16th, 2013, 09:03 PM   #183
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Seems like someone actually read your letter.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 08:39 AM   #184
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I was just thinking. if by chance we could get the Legislators to listen. right now today there is about 180,000 orv sticker sold each year($3,055,000). that doesn't sound like much in dollars. however if they took the intended raise in ORV sticker fees and made it legal to use that on the road with a plated sticker or number set then they could sell many more.

I was doing the math. if they used $26.50 as a start based on what I see in AZ for a reference that could be 29% of the population meaning 2900000 users buying that many sticker or plates generating $76,850,000.00
this where I find it funny, that as greedy as this state tends to be they can't see the cash cow?
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Old December 17th, 2013, 11:13 AM   #185
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Yetti, you are missing the biggest part of the pie. A person will spend over $1000 to convert a sxs to street legal and they require you to show receipts to assure you pay sales tax on all the stuff.

2,900,000 x $60 = $174 Million.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 12:24 PM   #186
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For those of you that live near me, Representative Smiley (D-50) is an outdoor guy, and sits on the transportation committee that will ultimately bury/alter/approve this thing, so send him an e-mail charlessmiley@house.mi.gov or call his office to let him know your opinion.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 02:04 PM   #187
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I was just thinking. if by chance we could get the Legislators to listen. right now today there is about 180,000 orv sticker sold each year($3,055,000). that doesn't sound like much in dollars. however if they took the intended raise in ORV sticker fees and made it legal to use that on the road with a plated sticker or number set then they could sell many more.

I was doing the math. if they used $26.50 as a start based on what I see in AZ for a reference that could be 29% of the population meaning 2900000 users buying that many sticker or plates generating $76,850,000.00
this where I find it funny, that as greedy as this state tends to be they can't see the cash cow?
You want people to be able to use their offroad only products on all roads with a sticker purchase? Lol.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 03:21 PM   #188
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Here is what I got from my representative, Ken Goike:

Dear Michael,

Thank you for contacting me with your opposition to Senate Bill 491. Since this proposal just recently passed the Senate, I appreciate you bringing this to my attention. As ATV and snowmobile enthusiast, I generally support expanding the use of ORV’s and snowmobile’s, not restricting them.

Let me take a closer look at this specific proposal, but I appreciate you letting me know about it. If there’s anything else I can do for you, please don’t hesitate to let me know.

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Old December 18th, 2013, 06:43 AM   #189
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You want people to be able to use their offroad only products on all roads with a sticker purchase? Lol.
several states already do it. the idea that the Govenor already made it legal for every county to have the option to go ORV open is going to change a few places at the minimum.
so why not make it legal in every county by law and charge accordingly?
its still based on the 25 MPH speed limit and I would gladly drive my quad to work the 6 miles. I already keep full coverage on all my machine. just need it to be legal.
I think your assuming it would make them legal for freeways and state roads( M roads) they are not legal now nor should they be.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 08:01 AM   #190
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But if they get a SOS plate, they should be allowed on M roads. As far as freeways, I don't think they belong there and my Rhino can't achieve the min speed limit of 55 anyway.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 08:34 AM   #191
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I think one day a year, everything should be legal.


Wow, that would make a great movie.
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