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Old November 28th, 2013, 10:08 AM   #21
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Would be cool but what would you do with it? If you use the dually chassis, the jeep driveline will be under powered. I think you would struggle even at the dunes. Looks like it would be pretty much a street cruiser.
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Old November 28th, 2013, 10:18 AM   #22
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Would be cool but what would you do with it? If you use the dually chassis, the jeep driveline will be under powered. I think you would struggle even at the dunes. Looks like it would be pretty much a street cruiser.
I also wondered about that with the dually, Jim. I know that the heavy-a$$ Dana 70U in my '05 LJ (geared at 4.88 with 37s) had plenty of power with the stock 4.0L.

EDIT: BTW, there also WAS a factory DRW FC-170 option (used a Dana 70).

It would *not* be a hardcore off-road rig, but rather a fun little parts hauler and trailer hauler (my other vehicle is a Honda Civic). It would need to have decent road-handling ability, though, as I could see throwing a little camper on the back (bed) eventually, and traveling some with it.

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Old November 28th, 2013, 10:34 AM   #23
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I also wondered about that with the dually, Jim. I know that the heavy-a$$ Dana 70U in my '05 LJ (geared at 4.88 with 37s) had plenty of power with the stock 4.0L.

EDIT: BTW, there also WAS a factory DRW FC-170 option (used a Dana 70).

It would *not* be a hardcore off-road rig, but rather a fun little parts hauler and trailer hauler (my other vehicle is a Honda Civic). It would need to have decent road-handling ability, though, as I could see throwing a little camper on the back (bed) eventually, and traveling some with it.

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If this be the case, skip the dually, go srw, find a military trailer for the box, have fun
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Old November 28th, 2013, 10:36 AM   #24
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I've always liked FC's. Good luck with the build and keep it cheap otherwise it will take forever to complete.
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Old November 28th, 2013, 10:47 AM   #25
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If you are going to do it.... sell the 4.0 jeep driveline and put in a ls powerplant with a 4l80. It would leave you more options for down the road + you would have overdrive and be able to run 4.10's n up + still get bearable milage. Like the Jeep but think the 4.0 driveline is a bad, bad idea. You need to find a balance between price and cost. May be cheep to get it going, but will cost a lot to get it where you will be happy with it!
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If you are going to do it.... sell the 4.0 jeep driveline and put in a ls powerplant with a 4l80. It would leave you more options for down the road + you would have overdrive and be able to run 4.10's n up + still get bearable milage. Like the Jeep but think the 4.0 driveline is a bad, bad idea. You need to find a balance between price and cost. May be cheep to get it going, but will cost a lot to get it where you will be happy with it!
The jeep 4.0 is great power plant..it's not underpowered, it would be perfect in this application...
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Old November 28th, 2013, 11:21 AM   #27
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Pm'd you. Give Ron Hatner a call for any original parts you need.
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Old November 28th, 2013, 11:23 AM   #28
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I've always liked FC's. Good luck with the build and keep it cheap otherwise it will take forever to complete.
Amen, Nuggets. Not keeping it cheap isn't an option for me.



Regarding the 4.0 vs. different power plant, I get the point with the "cost vs. price" thing, Porscheguy (thanks for the input). I also know the history of the 4.0L, have the complete donor vehicle/wiring, etc. I also know that selling a clean, low-mileage, dry (no leaks) engine/trans in a market of cheap-asses isn't always easy. I'm sure someone would trade some car audio and paintball stuff for it, but that doesn't help.

I'm not a power hound by any means, and have always been happy with the power of a 4.0L. I know some people aren't, but I am. And hell, if beejers from RockSolid Performance (who IS a power hound) is happy with his 4.0L-equipped XJ on 1-tons, 4-wheel steering, etc., I know that a lot milder rig should do OK with one. I have nothing concrete to back up this opinion...it's strictly gut feel/opinion.

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Old November 28th, 2013, 11:24 AM   #29
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I think you have a good plan. I think Hancho is right about ditching the DRW setup.
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Old November 28th, 2013, 11:52 AM   #31
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i think you have a good plan. I think hancho is right about ditching the drw setup.
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Old November 28th, 2013, 12:05 PM   #32
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The 4.0 will be fine, I think your going to find you don't want to go fast in it anyway.

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A 4.0 kills the flat 6 that would come in that from the factory so I don't see the need for anything more then that
Even with tons it wouldn't be that heavy of a rig
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Fitment of a V style engine can also be tough, where the 4.0 will fit right where the original I6 fits. My father has an FC-170 that we intend to do a 4.0 swap into, and I think it will be great. However, I think that starting with just a cab, 2wd boosted street rig is the cheapest way to make it a sweet ride.
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Old November 28th, 2013, 01:01 PM   #35
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Use as much stuff as you can that you already have. Better chance of actually finishing it that way.
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Old November 28th, 2013, 03:13 PM   #36
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i like the 4.0 idea... only with an AX-15
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Old November 28th, 2013, 03:14 PM   #37
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...except you, woohaw. You already know I have zero respect for you, and your opinion. I could even look past your dickish ways if you had any fabrication/hands-on build credibility, but you really don't.
I'm always impressed with your intimate knowledge of my life. I guess I enjoy letting the Pros do it and using my time more efficiently but what ev bro. Looking forward to the future part out.

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Old November 28th, 2013, 03:16 PM   #38
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I like everything except the flat bed. Build a new bed.
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