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Old October 25th, 2013, 08:39 PM   #21
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Serious, no, it was not a poke at Obama. Not from me. We all know Obama's story so why would anyone need to exploit it more? That's why it's not bullshit. Instead, what it is, is that everyone thinks it's a poke at Obama. So you believe everything on Wikipedia too?

Admittedly, I don't know the history of Hitler and that's what intrigued me. But to say I was doing this to poke at Obama is an insult and I take offense to your strong accusations.
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the first time I listened/watched this youtube vid, I definitely got the feeling in the first 30 seconds that this was a obie-hitler comparison thing. Anyone with half a brain can get that within the first few minutes at the most. To deny that would be silly at best.

I'm so disappointed by the shit I am starting to seriously doubt the intelligence of anyone that goes to bat for either side on forums/social media/blogs/news websites.
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Go back and read what I posted. I never said it doesn't make one think of Obie. (no denying here) What I said is that I was curious if it was true about Hitler. I didn't go searching and still haven't....... don't really care that much.

Yes people will see the hint at Obama. No shit! But that is not the reason I posted it and to call me a liar is offensive. That is strong language.
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Serious, no, it was not a poke at Obama. Not from me. We all know Obama's story so why would anyone need to exploit it more? That's why it's not bullshit. Instead, what it is, is that everyone thinks it's a poke at Obama. So you believe everything on Wikipedia too?

Admittedly, I don't know the history of Hitler and that's what intrigued me. But to say I was doing this to poke at Obama is an insult and I take offense to your strong accusations.
The video you posted was most definitely intended as a poke at Obama. Denying that is an insult to our intelligence. I do not know your intent for posting. Make what ever claim you want for that.

But lets look at the claims in the video, and yes, I am using Wikipedia as my source.
Adolf_Hitler Adolf_Hitler
No, I do not believe everything there, if someone has better information feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Born in one country but raised in another: Yes, Hitler was born in Austria,

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Adolf Hitler was born on 20 April 1889 at the Gasthof zum Pommer, an inn located at Salzburger Vorstadt 15, Braunau am Inn, Austria-Hungary, a town on the border with Bavaria, Germany
And raised in Germany:

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When Hitler was three, the family moved to Passau, Germany.
Father born in yet another country...

Maybe technically true, but not really, he was born in Lower Austria, so still part of Austria.

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Alois Schicklgruber was born in the village of Strones in the Waldviertel, a hilly forested area in northwest Lower Austria just north of Vienna
Many of the next claims seem to be mixing him with his father.

Adolf Hitler was the forth of six children by the same parents...

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He was the fourth of six children to Alois Hitler and Klara Pölzl (1860–1907).
It was his father that was born of a mother that had children by several different men...

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Hitler's father, Alois Hitler (1837–1903), was the illegitimate child of Maria Anna Schicklgruber.
Yes, he did seem to have a closer relationship with his mother than his father...

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The move to Hafeld coincided with the onset of intense father-son conflicts caused by Hitler's refusal to conform to the strict discipline of his school.
Knowing the reasons for this would require more research that I am willing to do now.

Mother dies at an early age from cancer...

Yes, she died at 47 from attempt to treat her breast cancer.

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Three or four years later a tumor was diagnosed in her breast. Following a long series of painful iodoform treatments given by her doctor Eduard Bloch, Klara died at home in Linz from the toxic medical side-effects on 21 December 1907.
Wrote a book idolizing his father... Hitler wrote a few book, but I can not find any that deal significantly with his father. Also, I find nothing about his father abandoning him.

Birth records and real name...

Again, this seems to be an attempt to confuse Adolf Hitlers story with that of his father.

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Hitler's father, Alois Hitler (1837–1903), was the illegitimate child of Maria Anna Schicklgruber. Because the baptismal register did not show the name of his father, Alois initially bore his mother's surname, Schicklgruber. In 1842, Johann Georg Hiedler married Alois's mother, Maria Anna. After she died in 1847 and Johann Georg Hiedler in 1856, Alois was brought up in the family of Hiedler's brother, Johann Nepomuk Hiedler.[2] In 1876, Alois was legitimated and the baptismal register changed by a priest to register Johann Georg Hiedler as Alois's father (recorded as Georg Hitler).[3][4] Alois then assumed the surname Hitler,[4] also spelled as Hiedler, Hüttler, or Huettler. The Hitler surname is probably based on "one who lives in a hut" (Standard German Hütte for hut) or on "shepherd" (Standard German hüten for to guard); alternatively, it may be derived from the Slavic words Hidlar or Hidlarcek
Grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity...

I've heard the rumors Hitler was Jewish, but can find nothing that definitely proves it. Just as there's no proof that Obama was ever a practicing Muslim.

Books... I have not read them, but again, while Hitler may have not gotten along with his father, I find nothing about him being "abandon by his father".

Became active in local politics in his 30's...

Yes, true, after a considerable time in the military.

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After World War I, Hitler returned to Munich.[74] Having no formal education or career prospects, he tried to remain in the army for as long as possible.[75] In July 1919 he was appointed Verbindungsmann (intelligence agent) of an Aufklärungskommando (reconnaissance commando) of the Reichswehr, assigned to influence other soldiers and to infiltrate the German Workers' Party (DAP). While monitoring the activities of the DAP, Hitler was attracted to the founder Anton Drexler's antisemitic, nationalist, anti-capitalist, and anti-Marxist ideas.[76] Drexler favoured a strong active government, a non-Jewish version of socialism, and solidarity among all members of society. Impressed with Hitler's oratory skills, Drexler invited him to join the DAP. Hitler accepted on 12 September 1919,[77] becoming the party's 55th member.
He also attempted a coop in his 30 's and ended up in prison.

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On 8 November 1923 Hitler and the SA stormed a public meeting of 3,000 people that had been organised by Kahr in the Bürgerbräukeller, a large beer hall in Munich. He interrupted Kahr's speech and announced that the national revolution had begun, declaring the formation of a new government with Ludendorff.[105] Retiring to a backroom, Hitler, with handgun drawn, demanded and got the support of Kahr, Seisser, and Lossow.[105] Hitler's forces initially succeeded in occupying the local Reichswehr and police headquarters, but Kahr and his consorts quickly withdrew their support and neither the army nor the state police joined forces with Hitler.[106] The next day, Hitler and his followers marched from the beer hall to the Bavarian War Ministry to overthrow the Bavarian government, but police dispersed them.[107] Sixteen NSDAP members and four police officers were killed in the failed coup.[108]


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Hitler fled to the home of Ernst Hanfstaengl and by some accounts contemplated suicide.[109] He was depressed but calm when arrested on 11 November 1923 for high treason.[110] His trial before the special People's Court in Munich began in February 1924,[111] and Alfred Rosenberg became temporary leader of the NSDAP. On 1 April, Hitler was sentenced to five years' imprisonment at Landsberg Prison.[112] There, he received friendly treatment from the guards, and he was allowed mail from supporters and regular visits by party comrades. The Bavarian Supreme Court issued a pardon, and he was released from jail on 20 December 1924, against the state prosecutor's objections.[113] Including time on remand, Hitler had served just over one year in prison.[114]
"burst onto the national scene in his 40" ... Maybe sort of, but since he already attempted one coop he was hardly the unknown outsider the video implies. Yes, he did raise to power in his 40's.

Powerful persuasive speaker, Yes, most definitely.
Probably more so that Obama who can't speak effectively without a teleprompter.

To be continued...
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Good info and comparisons, thank you.

You missed my point Bruce and I will leave it at this, Yes, the creator of the audio definitely was poking at Obama. As I said before, no shit. Where we differ in opinion is why I posted it. You say I posted it to poke at Obama, I say false. I posted it because it was interesting about Hitler. Right or wrong on facts, I found it an interesting topic. I am not a great researcher. Yes, I know, everyone says "just google it". I probably should have.

I have nothing more to add.

If you choose to do more research, that would be great, I would enjoy the read.
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Well, so I don't understand why you would post it then, unless you're using GL4x4 as your own personal fact check for more than likely bullshit info/reporting?

Sounds kind of lazy. Why don't you just go read up on it yourself instead of having one of us do it, to disprove it?

edit: oh, you just basically said that.

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Right or wrong on facts, I found it an interesting topic.
I think this is a bad starting point to a discussion.

"Well I found this article that pretty much says, John Boehner is a day walking vampire. Right or wrong on facts, I found it an interesting topic."
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I think this is a bad starting point to a discussion.

"Well I found this article that pretty much says, John Boehner is a day walking vampire. Right or wrong on facts, I found it an interesting topic."
And Harry (libtard) Reid is the zodiac killer what's your point? You are butt hurt because 0bama shares the same qualities as hitler.
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Old October 26th, 2013, 10:17 AM   #29
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Well, so I don't understand why you would post it then, unless you're using GL4x4 as your own personal fact check for more than likely bullshit info/reporting?

Sounds kind of lazy. Why don't you just go read up on it yourself instead of having one of us do it, to disprove it?

edit: oh, you just basically said that.
Why do you need to understand why he posted it? Who the fukc are you? There's plenty of stuff posted all over this place that you may not like or even understand, so why so butt hurt over this post? You and bruce should spend less time trying to be the internet police and more time jerking off to Obama speeches.
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Why do you need to understand why he posted it? Who the fukc are you? There's plenty of stuff posted all over this place that you may not like or even understand, so why so butt hurt over this post? You and bruce should spend less time trying to be the internet police and more time jerking off to Obama speeches.
Do you have some kind of anger problem lately? yikes.

I find it intellectually lazy to find something stupid on the internet, post it up and expect other people to do the research to figure out if its true or not. (basically what Aber does in every other post he makes)

I'm not butthurt. I am not an Obama apologist and I don't pleasure myself to his speeches.
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And Harry (libtard) Reid is the zodiac killer what's your point? You are butt hurt because 0bama shares the same qualities as hitler.

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Listening to that I thought for sure he is talking about Obama. It surprised me it was Hitler. And to think of all those pictures of Bush with a Hitler mustash and the comparisons the liberals used between the two. Obama's life would be more like the life of Hitler. But they refuse to see what is right in front of them, a black Hitler. Well not quite, we'll see what our future holds for us.
Lol.

You guys understand that you could basically do the same thing with most any two public figures by cherry picking parts of each of their lives and putting them in a video?
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Do you have some kind of anger problem lately? yikes.
Brewman and yourself bring out the worst in most of us.
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You guys understand that you could basically do the same thing with most any two public figures by cherry picking parts of each of their lives and putting them in a video?
Maybe I should do one with Jesus and Ronald Reagan.

The whole time you think it's Jesus and then bam Ronald Reagan.
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I'm not angry at all, and people on the internet don't get me upset. I do find all this funny that you and bruce have such a problem with a link someone posted here. There has certain been less interesting things linked here and some would say a few conspiracy theories that are really out there, yet this is the thread you have an issue with?
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I'm not angry at all, and people on the internet don't get me upset. I do find all this funny that you and bruce have such a problem with a link someone posted here. There has certain been less interesting things linked here and some would say a few conspiracy theories that are really out there, yet this is the thread you have an issue with?
It's the one I clicked on.
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Aber, I have a question for you. What does this graph mean to you?

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I thought they were comparing Obama to one of first presidents (of the colonies) like Peyton Randolph.
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Grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity...

I've heard the rumors Hitler was Jewish, but can find nothing that definitely proves it. Just as there's no proof that Obama was ever a practicing Muslim.
I thought either his mother or grandma was jewish, but I guess there is no definite proof: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...hitlerjew.html
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I'm not angry at all, and people on the internet don't get me upset. I do find all this funny that you and bruce have such a problem with a link someone posted here. There has certain been less interesting things linked here and some would say a few conspiracy theories that are really out there, yet this is the thread you have an issue with?
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