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Old October 19th, 2013, 05:10 PM   #1
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I've used garmin products for about the last 15 years and I own the topo cds for both north America and Canada for garmin.

I fried my last garmin gps which was a color vista on the handlebar of my motorcycle just as I was starting my Alaska trip last summer. I'm assuming too much vibration. I've yet to replace it.

Reason: I always wanted a big screen to look at the maps on and hesitated to pay the 600 or more for a garmin with a big screen.

I've got this cheaper tablet I use everyday (bluetooth, gps, wifi, mini sd card) and wanted to test out its usefulness as a gps device for offroad tracking and mapping. So my question is...recommended apps for this...waypoint and track and route management app....

I've installed a few different free ones and I'm troubled by how complicated they try to make everything. I want a big map I can scroll around on, simple waypoint adding, track features...

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Edit...I've tried Oruxmap, backcountry navigator, osmand....

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Old October 19th, 2013, 05:31 PM   #2
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Taking another members advice I bought back country navigator application . I think it works great you just need to save map templates.

Sitting in target parking lot I can zoom to see all of the state or zoom in to see all roads or any thing else like parks rivers etc.


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Old October 19th, 2013, 05:35 PM   #3
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Kind of related in a way:

Everyone needs to install GPSTest on their smartphones (especially the wives, girlfriends, daughters, etc). It has a nifty little function that lets you rapidly share your coordinates (via GPS of course) on Facebook or through email. Never know when that might come in handy. I used to use it back in Texas when I was out fishing so my buddies could easily find me when they made their way out to meet up with me.

It's also a great diagnostic tool for your GPS and has all sorts of nifty features. It's also 100% free.
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Hrmmmm.... Gpstest you say??? I will be looking into it. Thanks!
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The biggest issue I have had with any of the app gps packages is maps and having to download them. Access to a data connection at all times isn't always possible. Downloading specific maps for each trip isn't always practical either. It's not just the maps. It's POI's, speeds, detours and all the other info that a stand alone gps can provide and is stored locally on the device. You can't predict all the info you will want for the whole trip.

And if vibration killed your GPS...I don't see any way in hell that a cheap tablet, or even an expensive one, will survive. Not to mention weather.
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Kind of related in a way:

Everyone needs to install GPSTest on their smartphones (especially the wives, girlfriends, daughters, etc). It has a nifty little function that lets you rapidly share your coordinates (via GPS of course) on Facebook or through email. Never know when that might come in handy. I used to use it back in Texas when I was out fishing so my buddies could easily find me when they made their way out to meet up with me.

It's also a great diagnostic tool for your GPS and has all sorts of nifty features. It's also 100% free.
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I tried this on a $100 Android tablet.


Don't bother.


Cheap tablets have slow processors, and you will be 50 feet past your turn when it alerts you.

BTW, the app was navfree, you dont need a constant data connection, but the poi's suck, couldn't even find Atlanta's airport without an address.
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And if vibration killed your GPS...I don't see any way in hell that a cheap tablet, or even an expensive one, will survive. Not to mention weather.
Yeah, I'd be moving it off the handle bar and into the tankbag front cover as far as motorcycle mounting goes....but I mainly want it for the jeep mounting it on the dash some way.
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I have no intention of using it to navigate cities with turn by turn navigation. I want it for back woods trail mapping and topo viewing.
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Old October 19th, 2013, 07:28 PM   #10
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Taking another members advice I bought back country navigator application . I think it works great you just need to save map templates.

Sitting in target parking lot I can zoom to see all of the state or zoom in to see all roads or any thing else like parks rivers etc.

How does it handle waypoint, routes, tracks? I tried that app 6 months ago via the demo version and gave up on it. Maybe a revisit...
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How does it handle waypoint, routes, tracks? I tried that app 6 months ago via the demo version and gave up on it. Maybe a revisit...
I made a mount for the dash on my cherokee and used it all week on Drummond. I download other peoples tracks and it followed them with no problem even without cell connection.

Here's a screen shot of Drummond

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Old October 19th, 2013, 10:30 PM   #12
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Eric99tj uses a tablet setup in his jeep and has for a couple years. He was one of the trail leaders at gitchee gumee this year. He goes trail riding in Canada at least 3 or 4 times a year and loves his tablet setup.
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Old October 20th, 2013, 01:21 PM   #13
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I was playing with osmand and really liked the interface and the maps. Optional contours and stuff. I bit he bullet and paid for it, under 10 bucks, so I could check out the contours, topo, features. Problem: it doesnt display any small rivers or streams, but everything else is great.

I was able to create a track, email it to my home pc and open it in garmins mapsource with all the good maps. I also went the other way back to the tablet without issue.

As far as the TOPO apps I dont like the inability to save ALL the maps because of the size of them. The few TOPO programs I tried were limited to a small area for me to save the maps of. I took a trip around the UP a few years back and if I tried to save those maps my tablet would explode!

So far my options for large screen map viewing while exploring big areas over long periods of time are...
1. Garmin gps big screen, using maps I already bought, paying a ton of money for.
2. Use the cheap apps on the tablet but need to have access to either a pc or the internet to upload areas that wont fit on the tablet.
3. Use the maps I can get on the tablet and try to work wih the limited information on the maps.

I'm not giving up....still looking...
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How much storage do you need ? The samsung takes memory cards so you could add tracks on separate card ?
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I have considered a 32g card and put what I need on that. Im using a 4g card now and that isnt big enough. Any chance you can see how big the UP would be size wise?

Osmand maps with contours for michigan and ontario are under 800mb.

I hope to do a circle lake superior trip and that would need a bunch of maps. My now junk old vista was able to hold all those maps, but just barely!
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curious how this works, I have a Motorola Xoom I wouldn't' mind using this way, I do have a 32gb micro card in it.
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Cool. Interested to see how the tablets hold up.
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If you want to download maps for large areas (Like an entire state) to you tablet you can do it with Back Country Navigator. When you select an area to download it gives you an option of what level of detail do you want to download. If you pick to just download the high level maps it will not take up much room at all. You then can download the spots that you need more detail seperately. I have huge areas of Canada topos downloaded and it is taking up less then a couple hundred MB of space.
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I also us Backcountry Navigator on my Tablet and love it. There are a lot of different map choices you can choose from. I downloaded the whole state of MI on various different maps and switch from the different styles on the fly.

Another option is an app called My Trails. It also has a lot of differnt map styles to choice from
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I also us Backcountry Navigator on my Tablet and love it. There are a lot of different map choices you can choose from. I downloaded the whole state of MI on various different maps and switch from the different styles on the fly.

Another option is an app called My Trails. It also has a lot of differnt map styles to choice from
Thanks for the tip on My Trails! I like that you can do arial maps of Canada. That is one thing I wish I could do in back country navigator. Just another option!
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