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Old October 17th, 2013, 07:01 PM   #41
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this sounds like a good idea if you want my opinion
Ferries are closed. That was one of our 1st plans. The guy that ownes it now said he's never gotten permits to haul it. We are just trying to be legal. Shocking, I know.

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What's the big deal? Anyone who can afford the boat should be able to afford the transportation to take possession of the boat. If you didn't factor that into the purchase price, well............. It kinda comes with the territory.... duh.

It's like me buying my motorhome and then bitching about the $600 per year license plate. You have to pay to play.
Seriously, you're a fucking arrogant fucktard.
This isn't a 'big deal' as you put it. I don't think there has been a single mention of it being to expensive to bring it home. Why pay somebody 4000 dollars to haul the damn thing, when we have a truck that is more than capable, it comes with the trailer to do it. My biggest problem, is I am not educated on the wide load permitting side of it.

As I'm working/self teaching my way though it, I'm figuring it out. The whole point of the thread was seeing if anybody had done it before, and looking for pointers. Not asking opinions on how it should be retrieved. That's already been decided.

More accurately, it like you buying a motor home, and then bitching about having to hire somebody to drive you old ass around in it.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 07:09 PM   #42
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What's the overall , length and weight of this boat. I have a friend that moves boats for a living. I can ask him if he knows any tricks of the trade on this.
The boat is a 278, so the load is safely 28 feel. With trailer, I would estimate 35ish. Beam is 9'6'' I think, so the trailer *should* be like 9'10 ish

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You have obviously never dealt with anything like this in Illinois. They have a nasty reputation. They don't care if you are stupid or ignorant. You will pay.
Exactly It's 380ish miles going down and through chi/gary and 500ish mile going up and around the northern loop and coming back in via mackinaw bridge.

I'd rather pay the extra fuel and run north, then deal with permitting, traffic ect of running the south. Chicago/Gary is one of the busiest hubs in the country, and one of the most closely watched by DOT.
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What's the permit to just cross the bridge with a wide load gonna cost?
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The boat is a 278, so the load is safely 28 feel. With trailer, I would estimate 35ish. Beam is 9'6'' I think, so the trailer *should* be 9'10" ish.
I have a 10'6" beam boat and the trailer is around 8' wide
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What's the permit to just cross the bridge with a wide load gonna cost?
Supring.. just axles costs. 4.00 for the truck, and then 5 for each towed axles.. so 19.00. If under overall width of 10 feet, an escort is not need. If over 10, a free escort is provided. If wind speed is over 25 wide loads are not permitted to cross.
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I have a 10'6" beam boat and the trailer is around 8' wide
Really! Do you tow it? Pics? Have you ever checked out the legality of towing it? The current owner is supposed to get me measurements tomorrow when he gets home. As of now, I do not have exact measurements.

If the trailer comes back at 8.5 feet, I am not sure if I have to have wide loads. In my opinion I would, since it would still have moving a 10 foot wide object... What I think of is when you see a semi hauling a bulldozer.. The trailer is 8.5, but the load is over that, so he has to have oversized permits.
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Are you in charge of repairs too?

if so, capsize it.
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Old October 17th, 2013, 08:03 PM   #48
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Really! Do you tow it? Pics? Have you ever checked out the legality of towing it? The current owner is supposed to get me measurements tomorrow when he gets home. As of now, I do not have exact measurements.

If the trailer comes back at 8.5 feet, I am not sure if I have to have wide loads. In my opinion I would, since it would still have moving a 10 foot wide object... What I think of is when you see a semi hauling a bulldozer.. The trailer is 8.5, but the load is over that, so he has to have oversized permits.
this is the pic of it going down the road on the prev owners trailer. He drove it from canton to selfridge launch with no issues.
This is the trailer I bought for it last year. It fit with my car trailer there no problem. With the boat on it there's no way I can fit anything next to it . I only tow it to the launch and back at the beginning and end of the season. I guess you're supposed to get a permit to tow oversized or only allowed to move it at certain times of the day and week. The trailers fenders are under the boat and I know its legal width. The boat you bought is just like the one my neighbor had. He towed his just like I do
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Ferries are closed. That was one of our 1st plans. The guy that ownes it now said he's never gotten permits to haul it. We are just trying to be legal. Shocking, I know.



Seriously, you're a fucking arrogant fucktard.
This isn't a 'big deal' as you put it. I don't think there has been a single mention of it being to expensive to bring it home. Why pay somebody 4000 dollars to haul the damn thing, when we have a truck that is more than capable, it comes with the trailer to do it. My biggest problem, is I am not educated on the wide load permitting side of it.

As I'm working/self teaching my way though it, I'm figuring it out. The whole point of the thread was seeing if anybody had done it before, and looking for pointers. Not asking opinions on how it should be retrieved. That's already been decided.

More accurately, it like you buying a motor home, and then bitching about having to hire somebody to drive you old ass around in it.
No, not at all. Your very first post said this was going to be a pain in your ass. Seems odd that you (actually your parents) would agree to a purchase out of state without researching the cost and hassle to get it home. The easiest way is to pay the experts and sit back and sip a beer while it is in route.

I agree, you never complained about cost....... my bad.

Your final word in your first post said "help" which to most, would indicate you are looking for opinions and advice.

On the other note, I think you are doing the right thing by making sure you are legal and not just winging it. It's one thing to try to sneak across the U.P., it's another to expect to stroll up to the toll booth in St Ignace and find out you are hosed.
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With the boat on it there's no way I can fit anything next to it . I only tow it to the launch and back at the beginning and end of the season. I guess you're supposed to get a permit to tow oversized or only allowed to move it at certain times of the day and week. The trailers fenders are under the boat and I know its legal width. The boat you bought is just like the one my neighbor had. He towed his just like I do
Thanks. Once it's here I'm not irritably concerned out Overwidth issue. It's the crossing state line, 3 weigh stations and a major bridge crossing that will obviously check things outs.

I just finally figured out how to work Wisconsin's automated permit section of their website. Got the route planned and approved. Next I have to figure out MI's. If I can figure out WI's system, Michigan should be a breeze.

Just and FYI. If you are interested in being legal, as long as you're under 12 feet, a 'single' trip permit is 15.00ish and annual is 30.00. Once you get your 1st permit, you just renew it every year. That way if you take out a buss load of preschoolers, you don't have to worry about ramifications of hauling an un-permitted load. Banners are 20.00 each, and 4 flags will make you a legal begal. May save you a lawsuit.
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I'm not even 4miles from the lake. I usually tow it after 8pm or on a saturday. Theres a shit ton of boats that get moved around here and the cops don't bother anyone
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I'm not even 4miles from the lake. I usually tow it after 8pm or on a saturday. Theres a shit ton of boats that get moved around here and the cops don't bother anyone
I wouldn't want to try to sneak across the Mackinaw Bridge.
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I'm not even 4miles from the lake. I usually tow it after 8pm or on a saturday. Theres a shit ton of boats that get moved around here and the cops don't bother anyone
That's going to pretty much be the same situation once we get it home, but my dad wants to pull the annual as a safe insurance policy. My folks got in
one little accident
, and now they want to make sure all their I's are dotted and T's crossed when traveling. In that incident, as they were renting, the found out that they were supposed to have an extra rider on their policy to totally cover them in case of an accident, something most people don't mess with. Well, need less to say, they were glad they did the little extra.
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That's going to pretty much be the same situation once we get it home, but my dad wants to pull the annual as a safe insurance policy. My folks got in one little accident, and now they want to make sure all their I's are dotted and T's crossed when traveling. In that incident, as they were renting, the found out that they were supposed to have an extra rider on their policy to totally cover them in case of an accident, something most people don't mess with. Well, need less to say, they were glad they did the little extra.
Yikes. I'm not planning on renting an rv in ak but ill keep it in mind.........
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Thanks. Once it's here I'm not irritably concerned out Overwidth issue. It's the crossing state line, 3 weigh stations and a major bridge crossing that will obviously check things outs. thumb:
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My brother has the same damn boat and trailer. He currently keeps it on Muskegon Lake and stores it in Montague for the winter. He hauls it around without issue. Honestly I don't think you will have any trouble at all getting that boat and trailer home without permits. For what it's worth, my brothers boat is for sale too. Maybe your parents can get out of their deal. It would be alot closer .
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what's the weight of the boat? Unless you're going to be over weight for any bridge span formulas, you'll be fine. Most states permits aren't even all that expensive, quite cheap really.

I've been on the phone with the DOT from many different states and pulled all kinds of permits for inordinate size vehicles, every state has different laws.

Also, most states will not allow you to run after hours or on the weekends with a permitted load.
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My brother has the same damn boat and trailer. He currently keeps it on Muskegon Lake and stores it in Montague for the winter. He hauls it around without issue. Honestly I don't think you will have any trouble at all getting that boat and trailer home without permits. For what it's worth, my brothers boat is for sale too. Maybe your parents can get out of their deal. It would be alot closer .
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