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Old October 11th, 2013, 07:24 AM   #1
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Do you need an orv sticker for hunting on state land or is it only for wheeling in designated areas? When is it needed?

This is just in a 4x4 vehicle.
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If you are referring to a full sized vehicle that is state licensed for road use, you need an ORV sticker only if you are on ORV Routes, and at 3 state park facilities;
Silver Lake Sand Dunes
St Helen Motorsport Area
Bull Gap

If it is a non licensed smaller vehicle like a quad or motorcycle, you will also need it for ORV trails.
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If you are referring to a full sized vehicle that is state licensed for road use, you need an ORV sticker only if you are on ORV Routes, and at 3 state park facilities;
Silver Lake Sand Dunes
St Helen Motorsport Area
Bull Gap

If it is a non licensed smaller vehicle like a quad or motorcycle, you will also need it for ORV trails.
ORV route, that is not also part of a seasonal road...
If the road is mixed traffic including cars, and not only ORV Route, you don't need an ORV sticker
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Your licensed vehicle is legal on seasonal roads, you will need the sticker if the road is marked as an mixed traffic orv route. These routes can sneak up on you, some parts of seasonal roads can be marked as so, so for $16.50 it better to be safe than sorry.
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mounds?
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mounds is owned by genessee county. but yes, they require orv last i knew.
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The GOV is closed. No stickers needed today.
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The GOV is closed. No stickers needed today.
Ha, nice try. Got checked by the dnr last weekend. All good
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Do you need an orv sticker for hunting on state land or is it only for wheeling in designated areas? When is it needed?

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mounds?
I took his question as more hunting focused so I didn't include the Mounds. But yes, you are right.
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im more concerned with why? if the mounds is owned and run by genessee county. why would a state orv sticker be required?

is this some backdoor handshake between the state and genessee county?
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im more concerned with why? if the mounds is owned and run by genessee county. why would a state orv sticker be required?

is this some backdoor handshake between the state and genessee county?
you said backdoor
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Why take the chance? They are under $20 and good for a year. Just buy one, stick it on, and not worry.

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Cool, thanks. Just 2 tracks up near alpena. Not sure what they are labeled but i'll just get it to be safe.
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Why take the chance? They are under $20 and good for a year. Just buy one, stick it on, and not worry.

Honestly that's the wrong attitude. Yes, it's not a lot of money but if you are going to be on state land for hunting, why get pressured into buying a permit yo do not need? There are a lot of people who wrongly think they need one, including some LEO's. I guess using your line of thinking, if you are small game hunting with a shotgun, you should buy a waterfowl sticker just incase a LEO officer thinks you are duck hunting, even if you are in the middle of a dry field.

Simple rule of thumb: buy what you are required to buy and keep the rest of your money in your pocket.
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Cool, thanks. Just 2 tracks up near alpena. Not sure what they are labeled but i'll just get it to be safe.
This is helpful.
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7...070---,00.html

Use this map. Click on each county and it shows the ORV routes.
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,4570,7...8330--,00.html
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Honestly that's the wrong attitude. Yes, it's not a lot of money but if you are going to be on state land for hunting, why get pressured into buying a permit yo do not need? There are a lot of people who wrongly think they need one, including some LEO's. I guess using your line of thinking, if you are small game hunting with a shotgun, you should buy a waterfowl sticker just incase a LEO officer thinks you are duck hunting, even if you are in the middle of a dry field.

Simple rule of thumb: buy what you are required to buy and keep the rest of your money in your pocket.
From that point of view, yes I agree.

I was more looking at it more from the "two tracking"/off the beaten path type perspective. No worries.
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You need an ORV sticker for the following scramble areas:

Mounds (they receive ORV funding)
St Helen Motorsport Area
Bull Gap
Black Lake
Silver Lake

There are segments of the ORV Route on Drummond Island that also require an ORV Permit.

As long as a two track or back road on state land can be negotiated by a standard 2wd car, it is classified as a forest road and your license plate is all that is required, even if it is also marked as an ORV Route.

There are also a handful of newly designated scramble areas that have been added to the system - a friend of mine has a place in Evart, for example, where there was frequent off trail use in several little sandy bowls - the DNR chose to add it to the system instead of trying to "fix" it. There is nothing specific in the DNR literature on these new scramble areas, but since they do not meet the 2wd forest road definition I would stay out of them without an ORV sticker.
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You need an ORV sticker for the following scramble areas:

Mounds (they receive ORV funding)
St Helen Motorsport Area
Bull Gap
Black Lake
Silver Lake
This. Many folks think an ORV sticker is needed when driving on forest roads (ie two tracks) or ORV Routes which is not the case. Ironically, those forest roads are closed to ORVs in the lower peninsula.

The DNR has not entered a Director's Order for the ORV Route on Drummond - only talked about it - and so you don't need a sticker on there either. That said, the intention was for more difficult ORV Routes to require a Sticker, so support the sport and buy a sticker.

ORV Routes are forest roads. Forest Roads on State Land are open to street licensed vehicles (see previous for definition of forest road). No ORV sticker needed if street licensed.

Clarification - Black Lake scramble area is not open to full size vehicles.
There are three other scramble areas, have been around for years, Evart (Sugar Bowl), Gladwin and the Thunderbowl (USFS, UP). All of these are real small and difficult to find.
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Thanks for the clarification on Black Lake - I have never been there and don't realize there was not a 4x4 scramble area up there.

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