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Old October 3rd, 2013, 12:15 AM   #81
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Exactly what happened which apparently was going to happen with or without the chase. I will say I don't have a Facebook, so after seeing pictures of the guy they beat up I hope they prosecute the bikers and find the unidentified ones.
After running those assholes over, all he had to do while running from them was swerve back and forth until they said fukc it. And he should have stayed on the highway instead of exiting, as long as he had enough gas to keep going.
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Old October 3rd, 2013, 08:16 AM   #82
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Though Mieses is a Massachusetts resident, he has never had a valid Massachusetts driverís license for a passenger vehicle and has never applied for a motorcycle license, the Registry of Motor Vehicles said.

Registry records show that Mieses applied for a learnerís permit in 1999 and 2000, but that he never obtained a full license because he failed to pay fines imposed after he was ticketed for speeding in Lawrence in 1999. His last contact with the Registry was in 2001, when he obtained an identification card, registry records show.

Since 1999, he has been ticketed by police 16 times, in Lawrence, Methuen, Roxbury, Andover, and New Hampshire, according to registry records.

In June, the Registry notified the National Driver Register that Mieses was a habitual traffic offender whose right to drive in Massachusetts was revoked until 2017, records show.
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After running those assholes over, all he had to do while running from them was swerve back and forth until they said fukc it. And he should have stayed on the highway instead of exiting, as long as he had enough gas to keep going.
This. If it's a life or death situation, I've never understood how a bike can stop a moving vehicle if the driver doesn't care who he knocks over.
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Old October 3rd, 2013, 08:58 AM   #84
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here is a comment on the incident, along with "missing" video :

[url]http://jalopnik.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-terrifying-suv-vs-1440131015[/ul]



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http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/the-footage-that-the-nyc-bikers-didnt-want-you-to-see-1435594427/1436603736/@orlove

YOU WILL LIKELY HAVE TO CUT & PASTE THESE ADDRESSES TO YOUR BROWSER

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http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_n...cking-suv?lite


Gotta wonder what he was thinking........
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Not to start another debate here, but I was pleasantly surprised to see a news blurb the other day where one of the anchors said something along the lines of, "Well this certainly supports an argument for the benefits of concealed carry". He was of course talking about the Range Rover driver being able to defend himself.....I imagine the legality of being able to carry a gun would not change whether or not the biker "thugs" did it.
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Old October 8th, 2013, 04:28 PM   #87
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Agreed! I would hope in that situation drawing on the guy at the window would get him gone and all his coward buddies would follow. If not that then I would suspect dropping him would back the rest off. If that doesn't do it, then keep shooting till they have to beat you to death with your empty gun.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to sound like a gun-toting hardass. That would be the last ditch effort when all other options(including avoiding the situation in the first place, running away, getting to the authorities, etc.) were exhausted.
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Agreed! I would hope in that situation drawing on the guy at the window would get him gone and all his coward buddies would follow. If not that then I would suspect dropping him would back the rest off. If that doesn't do it, then keep shooting till they have to beat you to death with your empty gun.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to sound like a gun-toting hardass. That would be the last ditch effort when all other options(including avoiding the situation in the first place, running away, getting to the authorities, etc.) were exhausted.
The problem with that is I would bet at least half of those bikers were carrying (legally or illegally) and if you pulled your gun you'd quickly have 20 pointed at your face....
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The problem with that is I would bet at least half of those bikers were carrying (legally or illegally) and if you pulled your gun you'd quickly have 20 pointed at your face....

Very true.


Came out on the news tonight that the cop was the one that smashed the rear window.

"To protect and serve"..............Oh yea!
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Came out on the news tonight that the cop was the one that smashed the rear window.

"To protect and serve"..............Oh yea!
Just read that
http://news.yahoo.com/undercover-nyp...193030746.html
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The problem with that is I would bet at least half of those bikers were carrying (legally or illegally) and if you pulled your gun you'd quickly have 20 pointed at your face....
Potentially. At the point of them trying to forcefully remove me from the vehicle that's a risk I'd be willing to take, it's life or death at that point.
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Which one of you guys made the Range Rover facebook page? He calls the guy speed bump!
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Old October 9th, 2013, 10:13 AM   #94
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Potentially. At the point of them trying to forcefully remove me from the vehicle that's a risk I'd be willing to take, it's life or death at that point.
It is life or death no argument, it's hard to say what I would or would not have done. I don't think I would pull a gun though, I think my fight or flight instincts would have told me to flee.

Unless we are talkinga bout after he fled and they were pulling him out of the car, then yes, I think at that point your only option if you were carrying was to hope that pulling your gun was enough to deter any further action from anyone else.
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It is life or death no argument, it's hard to say what I would or would not have done. I don't think I would pull a gun though, I think my fight or flight instincts would have told me to flee.

Unless we are talkinga bout after he fled and they were pulling him out of the car, then yes, I think at that point your only option if you were carrying was to hope that pulling your gun was enough to deter any further action from anyone else.
I know I would be hitting the gas long before pulling my piece - until I had no place to go at the end.
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It is life or death no argument, it's hard to say what I would or would not have done. I don't think I would pull a gun though, I think my fight or flight instincts would have told me to flee.

Unless we are talkinga bout after he fled and they were pulling him out of the car, then yes, I think at that point your only option if you were carrying was to hope that pulling your gun was enough to deter any further action from anyone else.
Like I said earlier, the gun would be a last ditch effort. First, try to avoid the situation entirely(ie, pull to the right and let the idiots pass). Second, try and get the fukk out of there before it gets worse. Third, try to get the authorities involved to save your sorry ass. Fourth, try again to get the fukk out of there. Fifth, whatever happens in the meantime. Sixth, pull the gun in hopes of deterring them. Seventh(assuming sixth didn't work), shoot as many of them in the chest/face as necessary to get them to stop attacking, or until you're out of ammo and being beaten to death.
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Not to start another debate here, but I was pleasantly surprised to see a news blurb the other day where one of the anchors said something along the lines of, "Well this certainly supports an argument for the benefits of concealed carry". He was of course talking about the Range Rover driver being able to defend himself.....I imagine the legality of being able to carry a gun would not change whether or not the biker "thugs" did it.
you are also pulling on people who are not know to aim and would miss you and hit your wife and kid in the truck. I would have gave my gun to the wife and said don't shoot till they come after you.
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regarding the ^^^.....can you imagine the mess if a gun was pulled because it is now being revealed that a couple of the riders, including one of the guys that beat on the rover, were UNDERCOVER COPS.

idea for a new reality tv show: cops gone wild
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regarding the ^^^.....can you imagine the mess if a gun was pulled because it is now being revealed that a couple of the riders, including one of the guys that beat on the rover, were UNDERCOVER COPS.

idea for a new reality tv show: cops gone wild
Were they actually undercover? Early on I heard off duty. Big difference there. Still not excusable, but still very different.
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