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Old October 6th, 2013, 09:01 AM   #81
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I say if they want to be on the roads they need to pay a road useage fee, Semis have to do it, cars pay the gas tax, you have to register motorcycles, sprees, and trailers, why not register bicycles?
Yeah, let's start registering shoes, too, since our tax dollars pay for sidewalks.
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Old October 6th, 2013, 09:44 AM   #82
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Bike paths are not always good to ride on. Fat people walking their dogs in the middle of the path with a dog on each side blocking the path. Kids that ride like they are drunk, bums carrying fishing poles sideways, etc.

Also some paths have speed limits of 7,10,&15 mph which isn't fast enough. It turns into driving 80 in a school zone. So you ride in the street.

Also most motorist don't respect cyclist so stopping is sometimes more dangerous than just going. I run red lights all the time on my bike because the traffic sensitive lights don't activate with a bicycle
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Old October 6th, 2013, 09:53 AM   #83
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Bike paths are not always good to ride on. Fat people walking their dogs in the middle of the path with a dog on each side blocking the path. Kids that ride like they are drunk, bums carrying fishing poles sideways, etc.

Also some paths have speed limits of 7,10,&15 mph which isn't fast enough. It turns into driving 80 in a school zone. So you ride in the street.

Also most motorist don't respect cyclist so stopping is sometimes more dangerous than just going. I run red lights all the time on my bike because the traffic sensitive lights don't activate with a bicycle

I know it sucks when you have to slow down or move around people going slower.......
Oh wait that what the drivers are upset about as well.
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Old October 6th, 2013, 10:21 AM   #84
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That is a pretty generalized statement.

Most cyclists i come across do follow the rules of the road.

To me that is like saying all offroaders don't follow the rules just because you see some that don't.
In my experience, the vast majority do not obey any traffic signals, use any kind of turn indication and expect all vehicles to yield to them under all circumstances.

It still amazes me how many ride on the wrong damn side of the road or down the left turn lane.
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Old October 6th, 2013, 10:25 AM   #85
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Yep, I like when you pass a guy on a bike riding in the middle of the lane, then at the next red light he slides up past everyone next to the curb, runs the red light, ans we have a repeat performance after the light goes green. After this happens once, I slide over and rub the whitewalls on the curb.... Fucker can wait his turn...

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Motorized vehicles are a fairly recent addition to the road. Don't act like you own it. There is a reason we have a thread about stupid shit motorists do, not cyclists. Each one of you driving a car breaks a few traffic laws every day you are on the road. Don't be a hypocrite.
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Old October 6th, 2013, 01:46 PM   #87
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While I agree they have a right to be on the road, for the life of me I can't understand why I have to be held up by bikes peddling down the road when there is a bike path that our tax dollars paid to have put in. I'm not talking about a sidewalk path or a path to the right of the curb that pedestrians can use, I'm talking a path out lined specifically for bikes on the right shoulder of the same road I'm travelling on. But yet these bikers continue to ride in the car lanes holding up traffic. When I ride a bike if I see a car coming up behind me I get over off the pavement as far as possible to allow the cars to go on by but it seems most of these bikers or cyclists take the "I don't have to move over" attitude. It's like this when you're on the highway do you drive in the passing lane and hold up traffic or do you move to the right and allow faster traffic to pass on by ?
I was raised with the idea roads are for cars primarily, bikes can be ridden on them but they are secondary traffic so move over. I guess this is wrong according to the laws but I believe it is the considerate thing to do. If you hold me up you're going to get smoked out .
So that 30 seconds means that much to you?

Bike paths, as stated by a few of cyclists, are not that great to ride on if you're riding 20+MPH. You still have to worry about cars pulling out in front of you, looking out for slower moving people, etc.

My road bike will not go off the pavement nor will that allow me to keep my current speed. I'm glad you get off the road, most of 'those cyclists' are on the road because it's the best medium for them to LEGALLY practice thier hobby. It is ILLEGAL to not give them enough space when you pass them.
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again with the bitching about bike paths full of slow moving people/things.
And not being able to keep up a speed. Ride slower what the big deal its only a few seconds.
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I think he makes some valid points.

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And yes, I am one of those cyclists that ensures you do not pass me intill it's safe by riding in the middle of the lane.
Know what?

You are absoutely correct.
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I would not attempt to cross the bow of a Great Lakes freighter with my sailboat, according to maritime law, Gross tonnage rules. Yea , it's not the same ..........but you get the idea.
You go ahead and ride as you see fit.

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Old October 6th, 2013, 02:14 PM   #90
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Registering shoes is a bad idea, too many people would go barefoot and the cost of Obama care would go up.
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again with the bitching about bike paths full of slow moving people/things.
And not being able to keep up a speed. Ride slower what the big deal its only a few seconds.
I see what you did there....It's not the same though. If I'm keeping my normal pace (20-22MPH) and I'm going by a walker (2-3MPH?) I could be doing upwards of 11 times their speed. Even slowing down would still put me in the 4 or 5X range. That would be like you trying to pass a cyclist, who is weaving back and forth and is completely unpredictable, at 200ish MPH. Do you get why that wouldn't be safe?

Also, there is a method to cycling that involves training your Cadence (RPM's of your legs) to remain steady. If you're training in this matter, bike paths that stop and go and are busy are pretty much useless. When I'm training in that matter, I go to the country.

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You are absoutely correct.
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I would not attempt to cross the bow of a Great Lakes freighter with my sailboat, according to maritime law, Gross tonnage rules. Yea , it's not the same ..........but you get the idea.
You go ahead and ride as you see fit.
I get that cars are heavier but that gives them no more privilege to be on the road or own the road. I don't tease, nor do I taunt cars. I simply use my position in the road to communicate to the vehicles that I prefer they didn't try and pass me at the time. That's only when it's not safe for them to do so. I always get over when it's perfectly safe for them to pass me.

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Old October 6th, 2013, 03:15 PM   #92
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Let us not forget motorist have a whole system of roads to drive on that is free of cyclist. Where as cyclist have very few paths/roads free of automobiles
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I think everyone should ride their bike to work at least once, then maybe they'd pay more attention and we wouldn't have to listen to people bitch
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Old October 6th, 2013, 03:42 PM   #94
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Just out of curiosity, when you bikers are on the road do you have to obey the same laws that a car or truck does? I really don't know and want to.

We have a bike trail three streets over from my house and in turn get a lot of bike traffic in the roads. But not very many of them care about traffic laws while in the street.
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So that 30 seconds means that much to you?

Bike paths, as stated by a few of cyclists, are not that great to ride on if you're riding 20+MPH. You still have to worry about cars pulling out in front of you, looking out for slower moving people, etc.

My road bike will not go off the pavement nor will that allow me to keep my current speed. I'm glad you get off the road, most of 'those cyclists' are on the road because it's the best medium for them to LEGALLY practice thier hobby. It is ILLEGAL to not give them enough space when you pass them.

You didn't read my post very accurately did you ? The bike path or more accurately bike lane is on the road, the road has been widened to include a lane 5 feet wide for cyclists only no pedestrians it is lined with bike path painted in their lane and signs all over the place yet these inconsiderate idiots choose to ride in the car traffic lanes. So yes if they hold me up I will lay some black diesel smoke all over them.

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Ran into a bicyclist today :-/

I turn down a street with double yellow lines splitting a 2 lane road. So I keep a safe distance behind him. 25mph zone

I notice behind me a couple of cars, then a couple more, and now the guy behind me is riding my ass.
I'm driving my F250 and the guy behind me aggressively drives over the double yellow lines to cut in front of me almost hitting the bicyclist and speeds off with a temper. That guy couldn't see the bicyclist. If I were to have illegally passed the bicyclist he would have been safer than if I did what I did.
People don't want to wait. I didn't either, but I did. Because I did I almost took part in the bicyclist getting plowed......

As the bicyclist and I approach a stop sign with almost a dozen cars behind me that mfing bicyclist blows the stop sign!!!!!

Fawk you bicyclist!!!

True story that happened today.
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So you think that is a smart thing to do run a red light with a bike? Sounds like a good way to become road kill. That is the attitude of bikers that piss people off.
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I have no problem treating bicycles the same as any other vehicle. Any time I come up behind someone doing less than half the posted speed limit I'm passing them the first chance I get. The longer I'm stuck behind them the more annoyed I'll get, especially if they are deliberately trying to prevent me from passing.

I used to ride a bike quite a bit, not commuting but doing long distance (100+ miles a day) rides. I absolutely hated it when drivers would try to be too nice and drive behind me rather than just going by the first chance they get. I worried that if something happened and I wiped out into their lane they might not be able to stop in time. The longer they were behind me the more likely it was for that to happen.
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Today.........A jogger, IN THE ROAD, coming right at me in the middle of the lane.

There is a bike path......... RIGHT THERE..........to my right.

I stop,........I do NOT get out of his way,...........he curses me.

And you wonder why attitudes are negative towards non motorists in the road
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Ran into a bicyclist today :-/

I turn down a street with double yellow lines splitting a 2 lane road. So I keep a safe distance behind him. 25mph zone

I notice behind me a couple of cars, then a couple more, and now the guy behind me is riding my ass.
I'm driving my F250 and the guy behind me aggressively drives over the double yellow lines to cut in front of me almost hitting the bicyclist and speeds off with a temper. That guy couldn't see the bicyclist. If I were to have illegally passed the bicyclist he would have been safer than if I did what I did.
People don't want to wait. I didn't either, but I did. Because I did I almost took part in the bicyclist getting plowed......

As the bicyclist and I approach a stop sign with almost a dozen cars behind me that mfing bicyclist blows the stop sign!!!!!

Fawk you bicyclist!!!

True story that happened today.

It's almost like we're connected


This thread is worse than trying to talk sense to a democrat on the dole.

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Also, there is a method to cycling that involves training your Cadence (RPM's of your legs) to remain steady. If you're training in this matter, bike paths that stop and go and are busy are pretty much useless. When I'm training in that matter, I go to the country.
Training really? If you are that worried about training, then go rent a damn track. You still have to stop for stop signs and red lights and school buses, and pedestrians....or do you not follow the rules of the road and just blast through those things like most riders?
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