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Old September 26th, 2013, 10:10 PM   #141
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No shit.

I'm specifically talking about people who have treatable illnesses but do not have the means to pay for those treatments. Shall we just let them die?
Who are you to decide what they should do with their lives?
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Old September 26th, 2013, 10:14 PM   #142
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From everything that I have gathered from brewmenn, I am okay with people dying on the streets because I refuse to pay for their healthcare.

I am such a bad person.... who doesn't give a flying fukc. I work hard, pay taxes, pay my bills on time, and have never needed any kind of assistance. Why? Because I don't want to end up like a bum. I want to better my education, advance in my career, and have the life I want to live. I am able bodied to work therefore I do. I may not like it at times, but I have to do what it takes.

BUT! Maybe I will take my able bodied self and just take a 5 year vacation. Just not work, quit school, get on government assistance, get bridge card, the whole nine yards. At all of your expenses! brewmenn, you're okay with that right? I need free healthcare, but I don't want to work for it.
That's fine, I just wanted people to say it if that's how they feel. I don't think it's OK for able bodied people to get "the whole nine yards" because they don't want to work. I do however "give a flying fukc " able someone who is down on their luck, even if it's due to their own mistakes, but is willing to work hard to get back up.
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Old September 26th, 2013, 10:16 PM   #143
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That's why those people pay to have health insurance that will cover the cost of their treatments.
And what of those that don't get it from their employer and can't afford to buy it on their own?
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Old September 26th, 2013, 10:19 PM   #144
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Who are you to decide what they should do with their lives?
I'm the aging hippie liberal douche.

But no, if they want to just die I'm fine with that. I'm just not a big fan of people dying of treatable illnesses because they can't afford treatment.
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Old September 26th, 2013, 10:20 PM   #145
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Old September 26th, 2013, 10:24 PM   #146
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And what of those that don't get it from their employer and can't afford to buy it on their own?
This is America. Land of opportunity. If their employer doesn't offer any type of medical benefits, and if they don't make enough money to afford health insurance, then they ought to look for a job that offers benefits or pays more than their current job. Having health insurance seems like a must for the most part. Cable TV with 400+ channels, big screen TVs, new cars, gambling, drinking, smoking, etc..., those are not as important. I'm not saying everybody that doesn't have health insurance has all of those things, or spends their money foolishly, but there are those who do. People that need it the most will have to sacrifice some of those things that aren't as important. Would I sacrifice cable TV and/or my phone (at least the data plan) to help cover the cost of health insurance? Of course I would.

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Old September 26th, 2013, 10:44 PM   #147
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I'm the aging hippie liberal douche.

But no, if they want to just die I'm fine with that. I'm just not a big fan of people dying of treatable illnesses because they can't afford treatment.
You are always free to help them directly or through a charity. There is no reason to involve government in this. You will feel better for having done something good to someone and the person receiving help will be more grateful.

Why do you want to hold a gun to my head to extort money for your ideas?
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Old September 26th, 2013, 10:48 PM   #148
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Old September 27th, 2013, 05:49 AM   #149
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Thank god they put into law that any sb under 50 employees does not have to give benefits. Gone are the days of a sb offering benefits. It costs way to much to be able to stay out of business as it was let alone the new price hike. Just ask cc
I haven't worked for a small business in YEARS that offers insurance anymore. Bummer. In the 90s, every job came with a Blue Cross card.
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Old September 27th, 2013, 07:16 AM   #150
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Why? Because I'm not in lock step with everyone else chanting " 'murica, fuck yeah, 'murica, Obama sucks"?
No, because although you play it off like you're just thinking for yourself, you really look like you're actually ok with what is going on and I think what is going on is pure terrorism.
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Old September 27th, 2013, 07:31 AM   #151
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People pave their own path. If they don't like the situation they are in, only they can make it better. Not me, not you, not any of the 7 Chads on this forum.

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Old September 27th, 2013, 07:34 AM   #152
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This explains alot of the obamacare program that will hurt the middle class of America.

http://www.conservativeblog.org/amyr...iddle-cla.html
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Old September 27th, 2013, 07:36 AM   #153
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We all need this,

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Old September 27th, 2013, 07:36 AM   #154
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No, because although you play it off like you're just thinking for yourself, you really look like you're actually ok with what is going on and I think what is going on is pure terrorism.
Really? You equate wanting to find a way for more people to have access to health care with terrorism? In that case, I guess I am a terrorist.
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People pave their own path. If they don't like the situation they are in, only they can make it better. Not me, not you, not any of the 7 Chads on this forum.

There are more than 7 of us Chad's, but be careful there is one Chad who is on here who is dumber than shit and can not form a sentence. He makes the rest of us look bad, I don't suggest making it too well known that you share the same name with him.
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Really? You equate wanting to find a way for more people to have access to health care with terrorism? In that case, I guess I am a terrorist.
Combined with everything else, yes.

Plenty of people would have better access to healthcare if they got off their asses and got a job.
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Old September 27th, 2013, 07:52 AM   #157
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I think it would be great if everyone had health insurance, all treatable illnesses could be taken care of, etc.

There are ways to accomplish this. There is no need for certain medical procedures to cost umpteen million dollars. Unfortunately the legal system has created this mess. Some states have malpractice caps, others do not. This is one reason my wife and I will probably be leaving the state when her residency wraps up in 8 months.

Create an environment for the economy to thrive, and the rest will follow. This ass backwards way to accomplish this that Obama wants will be devastating.

The other issue is that the large majority of people in this country could give two shits about their health. They want to eat whatever they want, do whatever they want, and just take a pill for their blood pressure or cholesterol. They spend their money on their wants, and not their needs. When they run into health complications in the 40's and 50's, it's not their fault, and all of their health bills should be taken care of. How we got to this point in this country boggles my fucking mind.

You can't teach personal responsibility, but you can force it to be an option. Handouts, entitlement, and simply giving things away only encourages this.
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Old September 27th, 2013, 07:59 AM   #158
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Combined with everything else, yes.

Plenty of people would have better access to healthcare if they got off their asses and got a job.
Got it. Speaking my mind is just like hijacking plane and crashing them into buildings.
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The Amish got it going on.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...applies-amish/
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I like how it's called access to health care. The term access is typically associated with permitted access or denied access. Like these people are being denied access and they are being held down.

These people made choices not to get health care, plain and simple.
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