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Old August 30th, 2013, 09:50 AM   #21
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Just stop with only the trailer axles on the scale
This is how I've done it many times.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 09:52 AM   #22
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How will they get the trailer weight if my truck is weighed with the trailer?
If you use a CAT scale they have several pressure palates that you are supposed to stop on with only one plate per axle (1 for the front/steer axle, 1 for the rear/drive axle, and 1 for the three trailer axles). When you pay the $10 for the print out it will show

Steer: xxxx lbs
Drive: xxxx lbs
Trailer: xxxx lbs

The SoS only cares about the weight next to the trailer line.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 10:17 AM   #23
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Just stop with only the trailer axles on the scale
I would think some trailers like a long deck GN this would undermeasure by several hundred pounds of tongue weight.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 10:18 AM   #24
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My trailer is bumper pull
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Old August 30th, 2013, 10:23 AM   #25
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I would think some trailers like a long deck GN this would undermeasure by several hundred pounds of tongue weight.
The break point for the trailer plates is 2500 lbs. Most long goosenecks are going to be over that point even if you subtract tongue weight.
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Old August 30th, 2013, 11:23 AM   #26
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Find the scales you want to use near you. Drop the trailer on the scales, get it weighed, hook back up, collect your slip and go on with your day.
there's a scrap yard on William's Lake road, just south of Dixie that does it, unhook from the trailer as stated above
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Old August 30th, 2013, 11:29 AM   #27
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Subtract weight of truck (assuming you know it's weight)
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I figured that. Is it that easy though, get them both weighed, then go up to the window and tell them the weight of your truck to subtract, they do it and say have a nice day? Doesn't sound to bad
unhooking or not may be fine, but I don't think weighing truck and trailer on the scale and just subtracting the weight of truck will work, the SOS will want to use the weight on the certified scale slip, so pull up so just the trailer wheels are on the scale
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Old August 30th, 2013, 01:47 PM   #28
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I didn't bother weighing my 2-car hauler gooseneck I used to have when I registered it. It weighed over 4k pounds. I just walked in, she asked for the weigh slip and I just told her it is almost 40 feet long and weighs over 4k pounds. She laughed and did the paperwork since I was way over the cut-off for any lower weight trailer plates.
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Old August 31st, 2013, 04:55 PM   #29
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Old August 31st, 2013, 05:38 PM   #30
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I went to the scrap yard off Baldwin Rd near Great Lakes Crossing. It was a couple bucks, they didn't have me unhook, and they printed out the slip for me to take to SoS. Obviously without unhooking the weight will read a little lower than it really is, but all that matters is whether it's over or under 2500 lbs.
If this was Ferrous Processing & Trading off of Collier Rd. then I just had mine weighed there 2 months ago too. Run your truck across the train car scale till its just the trailer on the scale. They announce over the loud speaker your good, walk upstairs and pay ~$10 for your slip and you're off to the SOS.

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Has anyone run into problems towing an unplated trailer to the scales? We know that cops are 100% accurate on all legal matters, so will you get a ticket?
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By law, a trailer may be towed without a license plate, using the most direct route, to a certified scale to have it weighed (MCL 257.216)
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Old August 31st, 2013, 07:32 PM   #31
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Has anyone run into problems towing an unplated trailer to the scales? We know that cops are 100% accurate on all legal matters, so will you get a ticket?
I just came across this last week looking through the Michigan vehicle code on something else.

Took me a bit but I found it.

257.216 Vehicles subject to registration and certificate of title provisions; exceptions.
Sec. 216. Every motor vehicle, recreational vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, and pole trailer, when driven or
moved on a street or highway, is subject to the registration and certificate of title provisions of this act except
the following:
(a) A vehicle driven or moved on a street or highway in conformance with the provisions of this act
relating to manufacturers, transporters, dealers, or nonresidents.
(b) A vehicle that is driven or moved on a street or highway only for the purpose of crossing that street or highway from 1 property to another.
(c) An implement of husbandry.
(d) Special mobile equipment. The secretary of state may issue a special registration to an individual,
partnership, corporation, or association not licensed as a dealer that pays the required fee, to identify special
mobile equipment that is driven or moved on a street or highway.
(e) A vehicle that is propelled exclusively by electric power obtained from overhead trolley wires though
not operated on rails.
(f) Any vehicle subject to registration, but owned by the government of the United States.
(g) A certificate of title is not required for a trailer, semitrailer, or pole trailer that weighs less than 2,500 pounds.
(h) A vehicle driven or moved on a street or highway, by the most direct route, only for the purpose of securing a scale weight receipt from a weighmaster for purposes of section 801 or obtaining a vehicle inspection by a law enforcement agency before titling or registration of that vehicle.
(i) A certificate of title is not required for a vehicle owned by a manufacturer or dealer and held for sale or
lease, even though incidentally moved on a street or highway or used for purposes of testing or demonstration.
(j) A bus or a school bus that is not self-propelled and is used exclusively as a construction shanty.
(k) A certificate of title is not required for a moped.
(l) For 3 days immediately following the date of a properly assigned title or signed lease agreement from
any person other than a dealer, a registration is not required for a vehicle driven or moved on a street or
highway for the sole purpose of transporting the vehicle by the most direct route from the place of purchase or
lease to a place of storage if the driver has in his or her possession the assigned title showing the date of sale
or a lease agreement showing the date of the lease.
(m) A certificate of registration is not required for a pickup camper, but a certificate of title is required.
(n) A new motor vehicle driven or moved on a street or highway only for the purpose of moving the
vehicle from an accident site to a storage location if the vehicle was being transported on a railroad car or
semitrailer that was involved in a disabling accident.
(o) A boat lift used for transporting vessels between a marina or a body of water and a place of inland
storage.
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