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I DO believe in ghosts and I DO believe in God. 32 38.55%
I DO believe in ghosts and I DO NOT believe in God. 5 6.02%
I DO NOT believe in ghosts, I DO NOT believe in God. 20 24.10%
I DO NOT believe in ghosts, I DO believe in God. 26 31.33%
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Old August 14th, 2013, 12:15 PM   #21
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What the Fucking fukc is that thing?

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I believe in the possibility that things exist that we cannot see or explain, Ghosts and God included.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 05:19 PM   #24
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I'm with Dave and Scott on this one.
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I was with two other people several years ago, we all collectively seen a ghost at the same time, we were all sober, together in a car in don town Saranac near the cemetery at 11:30 at night. No bull shit with a group of three people.

I would like to convince my self that it was fog, or a mist, light reflection or some other reasonable explanation,

It was a ghost.
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Slight adjustment: I do NOT believe ghosts exists, however, I DO believe angels exist and I DO believe that Satan exists (the father of lies who can decieve us, and he operates in a spriritual realm, and could even use tactics to spook us in order to take our attention off of the better spiritual realm, making us obsess over the dark matters instead of seeking the light).
And demons of course as well. Scripture has no mention of wandering the earth after you die, but does have demons, angels (which are not ascended humans btw), God and Satan. In fact, it is pretty clear that you don't get to wander the earth after death...

Makes me wonder, all these "ghosts" that people see, are they really demons?

And if ghosts hang out in old houses because that's where they died, then why the hell aren't hospitals the most haunted places on the planet. You'd think there'd be shit flying all over hospitals as all those dead people became ghosts.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 09:07 PM   #27
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Have seen my grandmother's hand on a doorway 6 months after she died.

But my definition of 'ghost' is not the traditional walking spirit, it's more along the line of manifestation of memory.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 11:36 PM   #28
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Well I am a Christian so I know I am not supposed to believe in Ghosts and my Uncle whom is a Pastor tells me and my mother and siblings that there are not Ghosts but there are demons here on earth. I as well as my mother who is one of the most Godly people I know and my sisters tell my Uncle" well you didn't live in the house we did for 8 yrs.".
I can tell you I saw an apparition on several occasions run down the stairs in that house, we heard full on conversations, laughing, and people walking in the second floor. The first night we spent in the house my sister got up to go to the bathroom and had a full figured shadow standing between her and her bed when she was going back to it. She also heard a woman calling the name Charles throughout the night.
In the morning at breakfast she asked if anyone else heard the woman calling for Charles, my mother said "what did you hear?" and after my sister told her what was going on my mother told us the man who lived there when she was growing up was named Charles and he had to take care of his sick wife who died in the house. My mother knew them as she lived just 3 houses down.
I also can tell you there was no malevolent activity whatsoever so I don't believe it was demons. We prayed, read our bibles, and talked about God frequently not exactly the type of place demons would want to hang out if they shudder at the very mention of God. also our neighbors who moved here from Kentucky lived across the street and said they kept seeing an old woman holding fruit baskets on their back porch. I told my mother about that and she said that house used to have a fruit stand where the back porch was.
I have never had an experience since those childhood days and it has been a source of confusion for us for years but it happened and we just believe there are things we cannot explain. I also know that house doesn't stay occupied for long it has been through several owners since my youth. The only reason we moved was because the daughter of the woman who died there was renting to us and she said she wanted to move back in herself. My mother also helped care for the woman who died in the house .

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I'm a Christian too and I believe that ghost can exist. I don't believe they can hurt you or that they are here to scare you.
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And demons of course as well. Scripture has no mention of wandering the earth after you die, but does have demons, angels (which are not ascended humans btw), God and Satan. In fact, it is pretty clear that you don't get to wander the earth after death...

Makes me wonder, all these "ghosts" that people see, are they really demons?

And if ghosts hang out in old houses because that's where they died, then why the hell aren't hospitals the most haunted places on the planet. You'd think there'd be shit flying all over hospitals as all those dead people became ghosts.
I believe they are demons or angels. That's me personally though. I also believe that a demon doesn't have to be doing something inherently evil they just wonder the earth because that's what they were cursed to do intill Jesus comes back. THEN they will be cast into 'the lake of fire' or hell. You also have to think that they've been around for thousands of years and, if they've experienced humans for that long, know how we think and how to mess us up emotional/physically/spiritually with out being as direct as Hollywood would make us think.

Granted, I've never seen any demons but many of my believing (and yes more Pentecostal) friends have seen them. I have felt thier presence and have prayed against them multiple times.

I don't claim to have any of the answers but That's what I believe according to my experiences. If anything, I can tell you that our world is not purely physical and there is a spiritual side of it that many people refuse to acknowledge.
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Well I am a Christian so I know I am not supposed to believe in Ghosts and my Uncle whom is a Pastor tells me and my mother and siblings that there are not Ghosts but there are demons here on earth. I as well as my mother who is one of the most Godly people I know and my sisters tell my Uncle" well you didn't live in the house we did for 8 yrs.".
I can tell you I saw an apparition on several occasions run down the stairs in that house, we heard full on conversations, laughing, and people walking in the second floor. The first night we spent in the house my sister got up to go to the bathroom and had a full figured shadow standing between her and her bed when she was going back to it. She also heard a woman calling the name Charles throughout the night.
In the morning at breakfast she asked if anyone else heard the woman calling for Charles, my mother said "what did you hear?" and after my sister told her what was going on my mother told us the man who lived there when she was growing up was named Charles and he had to take care of his sick wife who died in the house. My mother knew them as she lived just 3 houses down.
I also can tell you there was no malevolent activity whatsoever so I don't believe it was demons. We prayed, read our bibles, and talked about God frequently not exactly the type of place demons would want to hang out if they shudder at the very mention of God. also our neighbors who moved here from Kentucky lived across the street and said they kept seeing an old woman holding fruit baskets on their back porch. I told my mother about that and she said that house used to have a fruit stand where the back porch was.
I have never had an experience since those childhood days and it has been a source of confusion for us for years but it happened and we just believe there are things we cannot explain. I also know that house doesn't stay occupied for long it has been through several owners since my youth. The only reason we moved was because the daughter of the woman who died there was renting to us and she said she wanted to move back in herself. My mother also helped care for the woman who died in the house .
I'm not denying your experience, but I wonder what your opinion is on how an apparition, if in fact a dead person, fits into the Christian scriptural belief of where a soul goes after death.
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From what I have seen in people, I find it difficult to believe that they evolved to their current position on the food chain, without some sort of help. As for ghost, it's more wishful thinking, as there are several people I would like to pay back upon my retirement from life.
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Old August 15th, 2013, 01:53 PM   #34
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And demons of course as well. Scripture has no mention of wandering the earth after you die, but does have demons, angels (which are not ascended humans btw), God and Satan. In fact, it is pretty clear that you don't get to wander the earth after death...

Makes me wonder, all these "ghosts" that people see, are they really demons?

And if ghosts hang out in old houses because that's where they died, then why the hell aren't hospitals the most haunted places on the planet. You'd think there'd be shit flying all over hospitals as all those dead people became ghosts.

Well I can tell you I know several people who work at Hospitals and most of them claim there are hauntings there. As far as Ghost being real I know the bible tells us in Job 7:9-10, NKJV. “As the cloud disappears and vanishes away, so he who goes down to the grave does not come up. He shall never return to his house, Nor shall his place know him anymore." It also says in Ecclesiastes 9:5-6, NKJV. “For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished; nevermore will they have a share in anything done under the sun.”
I could go on but you get the picture the bible tells us that there are spirit beings known as familiar beings but also warns us from having anything to do with them. So could the experiences we had back then have been Demons portraying as ghosts ? I suppose that's possible, or was it an Angel ? I can't tell you. Nothing ever was negative, it did leave us with some questions but did not make us non-believers. That is why I said it has been a source of confusion as nothing Angelic seemed to take place either. The apparition I saw never seemed to acknowledge me at all it just seemed to be running to the aid of his wife, it was always the same thing like a recording playing back the same part of a recording over and over. This went on for the 8 yrs. we lived there.
I suppose it could have been a demon and the confusion was it's primary goal. But the poll was do you believe in Ghost and I guess that depends upon whether you quantify ghosts as being spiritual beings or people who have died and are returning to walk the earth as Ghosts.
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Pole results so far after 59 voters:
43 believers in GOD (73%)
16 non believers (27%)
31 believe in ghosts (49%)

Interesting...... It seems that the few non believers on this site make the most noise. Maybe.
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Pole results so far after 59 voters:
43 believers in GOD (73%)
16 non believers (27%)
31 believe in ghosts (49%)

Interesting...... It seems that the few non believers on this site make the most noise. Maybe.
How you figure?
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So I'm watching reruns of the plumbers and wonder what kind of sick paranoid schizophrenic makes up imaginary friends in their house just because they don't have enough to keep them busy.

This guy just said it smelled like rotten eggs in the attic. He's not even man enough to admit when he lets one rip.
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If demons walked the earth in there demon form, every non believer would start believing. Satan does not want that. He wants to take away from God not make you run to God.
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