|August 28th, 2013, 09:52 AM||#1|
Join Date: 02-04-07
Location: Holt, MI
Teach me about trailers and GVWR
I am looking at getting a new trailer for here at work. I currently have a 7K lb 16' + 4' partial deckover trailer. It is a decent trailer but it has rails on the sides on the front half and it doesn't have a high enough weight rating for what I need to haul.
I am looking at something about 22' - 24' with a 14K GVWR and they weight between 3600 and 4400lbs.
The length is so I can haul two of our utility vehicles at the same time instead of only one. The heaviest thing I will be hauling will be a JD 5083E tractor and maybe an attachment. The tractor itself weighs 7435lbs. Plus figure 1000lbs for an attachment.
As far a tow vehicles we would use either a 2013 F350 RCLB SRW v8 or a 2009 Chevy 3500 RCLB SRW 6.0 and both would be using a Reese style hitch, non-5th wheel.
We cant have it more than 26000lb GCWR since we don't have CDLs.
The Ford Manual says GCWR is 19000 no max trailer weight given
Chevy is 16000 with a max trailer weight of 10,000 lbs.
The hitches on the trucks say
Ford (2" receiver)- 6000lb non-weight distributing 12,500 weight distributing
Chevy (2.5" receiver)- 7000lb non-distributing and 13,000 weight distributing
So basically for me to haul my current trailer loaded at the maximum 7000lb gvw (including trailer weight) I am already over capacity on a 1 ton Ford?
Something is not adding up to me. I thought F350s could haul a crap load but maybe that is the 2wd dually diesel. According to the Chevy manual I can only haul a trailer with a 6100lb gvwr since I will be over the GCWR for the truck.
I won't even be able to haul the new JD tractor we are getting no matter what the size of the trailer. Unless I go with a weight distributing hitch and I would prefer not to.
If you can follow my ramblings, what are your thoughts? I can probably get a larger, 2.5" hitch for the Ford but I still would have to get a weight distribution hitch to haul the weight.
I was thinking this trailer: http://www.loadtrail.com/detail.cfm?...hannel%20Frame plus optional items.
|August 28th, 2013, 10:46 AM||#2|
Join Date: 05-30-09
Location: Alpena/ Trenton
I don't know but GCWR was over 24K for 00 F350 reg SRW 4wd with Tri-Axle trailer haul 12K forklift to scrapyard in Toledo.
Would I do that again. Only for emergency but I bought recently 99 F450 for that reason.
|August 28th, 2013, 11:13 AM||#3|
Join Date: 08-24-11
Location: Chelsea, MI
Let me see if I can help.
Starting with a hypotetical trailer.
14,000 GVWR trailer
subtract 4,000 trailer weight
equals 10,000 payload or the weight you can put on the trailer and not exceed GVWR
subtract 8,435 tractor weight plus attachement
equals 1,565 extra payload the trailer can hold.
Now to the trucks and Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating (GCVWR). This number is the max weight you can have as if you were on a scale. This number includes: The truck, you, your stuff, the trailer, the tractor, and anything else that is being supported by the truck and trailer tires.
What this mean for the Ford is; assuming 4k trailer plus 8k load your truck can weigh up to 7k.
The Chevy is not rated to haul your load, assuming 4k trailer plus 8k load your truck can only wight 4k to stay below the GCVWR, also you would exceed the max trailer weight determined by Chevy (10k).
Your options for a truck are very limited. You can install a Reese 2.5" receiver on the Ford and that is about it if you are to be 100% legal.
If I have only confused you more read this link to understand all the terms and how they apply to your situation. http://changingears.com/rv-sec-tow-v...derstand.shtml
Last edited by Coyote Red; August 28th, 2013 at 11:49 AM.
|August 28th, 2013, 11:42 AM||#4|
Join Date: 03-13-08
Location: New Boston MI