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Old August 17th, 2013, 09:23 PM   #21
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Dick Cops (about 70% of local and 90% of state cops) think that what they say or think is law, so there is no getting around getting a ticket, but it will go away once you stop in the court and tell them you had insurance proof but the cop wouldn't take it.

My buddy and I were going to pick up a car with a tow dolly. Got pulled over because the tow dolly had no plate. Told the cop that it is considered a "coupling device" and the sec. of state won't provide a plate for it. I even showed him the STATE POLICE website where it says that tow dollies are coupling devices and do not have plates nor registrations, but he said he had never heard of that and still gave my buddy a ticket. After going to court it got dismissed, but seriously, when did the law become what cops think it is and not what it is?
You should be a cop
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Old August 17th, 2013, 09:24 PM   #22
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Sec of State usually calls the agent if it's a new plate. I haven't had to show proof on a renewal in a long time.
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Old August 18th, 2013, 05:50 AM   #23
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Sec of State usually calls the agent if it's a new plate. I haven't had to show proof on a renewal in a long time.
I haven't had to show proof on renewals either. I think the companies let the state know you still have insurance with them.

But for smartphone insurance proofs, I was denied twice, although I simply faxed the proof from my phone to their branch and they accepted it.
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Old August 18th, 2013, 10:05 AM   #24
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I wouldn't count on the cop accepting a digital cert.
my current insruance paperwork is printed on my computer from home, its blurry and the SoS accepted it
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Old August 18th, 2013, 10:32 AM   #25
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my current insruance paperwork is printed on my computer from home, its blurry and the SoS accepted it
Because the SOS can and often does call to confirm.


All I am saying is that if you get pulled over the cop may not accept it if it looks 'funny'.

Of course, if you don't drive like a douche, you won't get pulled over in the first place. Worked for me for the last couple hundred thousand miles.
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Of course, if you don't drive like a douche, you won't get pulled over in the first place. Worked for me for the last couple hundred thousand miles.
You don't have to drive like a douche to get pulled over. I have been in a car with a friend that got pulled over for being "suspicious". Another got pulled over for an air freshener in his rear view mirror. I have been with my dad after he just bought a boat, cop pulled us over to check if the stickers on the boat were expired or not. Just all depends on how much of a dick the officer is.
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From my understanding, when they run your plate number, it shows if it is registered, so I am not sure why you need to carry proof of registration in the first place. I got pulled over a few years back and had the wrong proof of registration in the car. The cop said he already new the car was registered when he ran the plate and there was no need for me to show it to him.
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You don't have to drive like a douche to get pulled over. I have been in a car with a friend that got pulled over for being "suspicious". Another got pulled over for an air freshener in his rear view mirror. I have been with my dad after he just bought a boat, cop pulled us over to check if the stickers on the boat were expired or not. Just all depends on how much of a dick the officer is.
Sounds like my son. Unfortunately, if you are 25 or under many cops automatically see you as suspicious- especially when there are a few extra people in the car.
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Sounds like my son. Unfortunately, if you are 25 or under many cops automatically see you as suspicious- especially when there are a few extra people in the car.
Very true. but there's probably a good reason behind all of it.
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Very true. but there's probably a good reason behind all of it.
Probably not. If they pull 30 people over for no reason (looking suspicious) they will probably get at least 1 of them for drugs, no insurance, no license, etc... So if they can get away with a BS excuse like "looking suspicious" then they will pull as many "suspicious" people over as they want and get at least a few tickets on the books for their trouble.
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Probably not. If they pull 30 people over for no reason (looking suspicious) they will probably get at least 1 of them for drugs, no insurance, no license, etc... So if they can get away with a BS excuse like "looking suspicious" then they will pull as many "suspicious" people over as they want and get at least a few tickets on the books for their trouble.
I'm telling you, you have this stuff figured out...You need to be a cop, or you are a cop and just aren't telling people

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I'm telling you, you have this stuff figured out...I need to be a cop, or you are a cop and just aren't telling people
Starting to sound more and more like it, isn't he?
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I wouldn't count on the cop accepting a digital cert.
X2

And given how addicted, no how dependent people have become to their "smart devices" why on earth would you want to hand your "can't live without device" with all your private personal data to an officer so he can take it back to his car while he calls it in??? Just so you don't have to print out the ins card and throw it in the glove box??? :facepalm:

What do you do if someone else drives the vehicle? Give em your phone?
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And given how addicted, no how dependent people have become to their "smart devices" why on earth would you want to hand your "can't live without device" with all your private personal data to an officer so he can take it back to his car while he calls it in??? Just so you don't have to print out the ins card and throw it in the glove box??? :facepalm:

What do you do if someone else drives the vehicle? Give em your phone?
Best argument against digital certs ever.
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Best argument against digital certs ever.
Very true. Once you give something to a cop, they can search it and use whatever they want against you without a warrant. Kind of like if you let them in your house and they start snooping around while you are getting them coffee and they find a bag of dope in your dresser. They don't need a warrant, you let them in.

Then again, the government knows what's on your smartphone anyway. Kind of a loosing battle if you want your smartphone info secure.
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I use esurance because Michigan has a stupid law making me seem like a drunk driver because I have not had insurance on a personal vehicle in 5 years and they were the only company willing to insure me despite having a perfect record and almost 500k miles within that time.

Printed the cards right off there site on normal paper went down to the sos and got the plate and registration. Went back to the house put the plate on the car took the car up to Grand Rapids and bought a gift for my grandfather. On the way back to Middleville I had the sun roof up with the little sun visor thingy under the sun roof closed. The little plastic pos clip broke and my hand came up grabbing the sunroof visor thingy and I pulled over turning on my flashers. I screwed around with it for a few minutes outside then went inside and messed around with it getting it fixed and was about to pull away when I look up at flashers.

Pullout the insurance and registration handed them to the officer he checked them and I was on my way.

Keep a copy of your insurance/registration in your wallet and one in the car and you will always have it on you.

The point made previous about other drivers totally makes sense. Whats wrong with a simple paper copy?
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