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Old August 6th, 2013, 05:48 PM   #21
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Wow ruthless ppl arnt you. I work in a steel shop and a stamping shop I run Blanchard grinders vertical and end mills and giant saws to cut steel and do some precision work. I can use height gauges micrometers depth mics and lots more. I'm looking to get into tool and die but idk anyone who can help me get into it. Also mechanic needs certs which is 2 yrs of school carpenter needs to go to trade school or have some training in that. Also everyone is asking for some sort of piece of paper stating you finished school. I'm 6 credits away from a degree need to pay for it myself because I can't get a grant and student loans keep telling me I need a co signer so I need a job that pays better so I can afford to live while paying all of my bills and pay for school. Also before I posted this the description said you were all friendly they should change that.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 05:51 PM   #22
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Old August 6th, 2013, 06:11 PM   #23
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We're just trying to help you out.

sounds like you have experience try an aero space shop my uncle works in an aero space shop and they hire at 16 to start and after 90 days its bumped to 18 so try that route if you can.

It doesn't hurt getting your résumé and going to different shops that you think pay what your looking for and dropping your résumé off and talking to some people there


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Old August 6th, 2013, 06:33 PM   #24
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Wow ruthless ppl arnt you. I work in a steel shop and a stamping shop I run Blanchard grinders vertical and end mills and giant saws to cut steel and do some precision work. I can use height gauges micrometers depth mics and lots more. I'm looking to get into tool and die but idk anyone who can help me get into it. Also mechanic needs certs which is 2 yrs of school carpenter needs to go to trade school or have some training in that. Also everyone is asking for some sort of piece of paper stating you finished school. I'm 6 credits away from a degree need to pay for it myself because I can't get a grant and student loans keep telling me I need a co signer so I need a job that pays better so I can afford to live while paying all of my bills and pay for school. Also before I posted this the description said you were all friendly they should change that.
All of this should have been in your first post.

Tool and die huh? F $16 to start. If you're any good you can find jobs $25 to start.

Don't have an attitude with these guys. You will just make them pull out their cocks so they can shake it at you.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 06:44 PM   #25
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Haha I'm not having a attitude my sense of humor is just kinda dry. Well I've applied to tool and die shops there only thing was I need more experience and I know a foreman at one and his advice was to try and find a shop where they would train me more in that field instead of all the things I can already do. I've been going around shops in my area and either they arnt hiring but will take apps or they want someone with 7 to 10yrs experience. I'm a fast learner and am good at what I do this stuff isn't rocket science but no one wants to take a chance on me and that's the frustrating part. If I lived at home with my parents it wouldn't make money a issue but I don't live with them.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 06:56 PM   #26
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Lower you pay expectation a bit and make that clear to the employer that you are willing to come on, on a 90 probationary period to "prove" yourself. If after 90 days they are happy with you and your work, bump the pay up.

Its a give and take.... If you want an employer to take a chance on you and invest the time and capital in training you, then meet them half way and lower your pay expectation a little. Youll learn more in the shop then you will in school.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 07:39 PM   #27
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Old August 6th, 2013, 07:40 PM   #28
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I'm a tool maker, and I can tell you that the machines that you have listed that you have ran are gravy. you will need to lower your pay expectations quite a bite. The trade isn't what it use to be. being able to run the machines gives you a plus but not much. I can say that in our shop, our Blanchard and vertical mills get used maybe 2 times a month. every thing nowadays is CNC. your best bet is to see if any shops are looking for an apprentice. $16-17 an hour at our shop is a kid that just got his journeyman card and is now a low end tool maker. Starting pay for an apprentice is $9-11 at our place.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 07:52 PM   #29
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because pounding nails, tending a mason, working an assembly line, or being a mechanic requires a phd.
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using the correct preposition might help your personal jab there, booblinker.

All I did was toss out some job titles that aren't skilled labor and earn a solid paycheck. Don't mistake tech for mechanic. guy is looking for some help and you guys have to be bags of dick, wtf.
Speaking of being correct..... You only tossed one job title...... and most of the people I work with who pound nails and tend masons are considered; and would also consider themselves to be "skilled labor"....
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Old August 6th, 2013, 08:01 PM   #30
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Sign up with a temp service, worked for me. I have a great job making over 21.00 an hour with good benefits. Alot of companies are using temp services exclusively these days instead of employing HR people to conduct their hiring. There are plenty of temp to hire positions that would require your skills.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 08:07 PM   #31
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Sign up with a temp service, worked for me. I have a great job making over 21.00 an hour with good benefits. Alot of companies are using temp services exclusively these days instead of employing HR people to conduct their hiring. There are plenty of temp to hire positions that would require your skills.
The job I am on in Colorado has 450+- people on it and I would guess 200 of those people are working out of a skilled temp service. 95% of the parkway electric guys are from a temp service and they have close to 100 people.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 08:27 PM   #32
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Temp services definitely part of the "new economy".
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Old August 6th, 2013, 08:39 PM   #33
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You have to be the dumbest person in this site.
No, that bar is pretty high (or low, depending how you want to gauge it)

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Old August 6th, 2013, 08:42 PM   #34
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Also before I posted this the description said you were all friendly they should change that.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 09:36 PM   #35
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Wow ruthless ppl arnt you. I work in a steel shop and a stamping shop I run Blanchard grinders vertical and end mills and giant saws to cut steel and do some precision work. I can use height gauges micrometers depth mics and lots more. I'm looking to get into tool and die but idk anyone who can help me get into it. Also mechanic needs certs which is 2 yrs of school carpenter needs to go to trade school or have some training in that. Also everyone is asking for some sort of piece of paper stating you finished school. I'm 6 credits away from a degree need to pay for it myself because I can't get a grant and student loans keep telling me I need a co signer so I need a job that pays better so I can afford to live while paying all of my bills and pay for school. Also before I posted this the description said you were all friendly they should change that.

Learn to spell and use punctuation. If you talk like you write you won't get far. For the skills you have listed, you would be 14-$16/hr in our shop tops.

And no, I am not ruthless. You are looking for a job. I'm giving you input to help you find one.
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Old August 6th, 2013, 09:44 PM   #36
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Old August 7th, 2013, 06:51 PM   #37
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My spelling and punctuation are terrible. Also no I speak way better than I write. See even your shop pays more than the ones I currently work at.
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My spelling and punctuation are terrible. Also no I speak way better than I write. See even your shop pays more than the ones I currently work at.
but his shop has literate, well punctuated monkeys filling out their production run sheets.

You'll have to step up your game.
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Old August 7th, 2013, 08:26 PM   #39
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Wow ruthless ppl arnt you. I work in a steel shop and a stamping shop I run Blanchard grinders vertical and end mills and giant saws to cut steel and do some precision work. I can use height gauges micrometers depth mics and lots more. I'm looking to get into tool and die but idk anyone who can help me get into it. Also mechanic needs certs which is 2 yrs of school carpenter needs to go to trade school or have some training in that. Also everyone is asking for some sort of piece of paper stating you finished school. I'm 6 credits away from a degree need to pay for it myself because I can't get a grant and student loans keep telling me I need a co signer so I need a job that pays better so I can afford to live while paying all of my bills and pay for school. Also before I posted this the description said you were all friendly they should change that.
The reason places need the piece of paper that says you are qualified is you are asking for 16+ an hour. There are plenty of jobs out there that will hire an intelligent, unskilled person that is willing to learn. Start at the bottom of the ladder and move your way up like a lot of us had to do. You can't expect good money if you only have basic skill.
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Old August 7th, 2013, 08:45 PM   #40
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The reason places need the piece of paper that says you are qualified is you are asking for 16+ an hour. There are plenty of jobs out there that will hire an intelligent, unskilled person that is willing to learn. Start at the bottom of the ladder and move your way up like a lot of us had to do. You can't expect good money if you only have basic skill.
If you have convincing skills you could always lie and then starting pay could be $30 an hour
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