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Old July 22nd, 2013, 01:20 PM   #1
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Hey all, I am in the process of finishing my garage. It's 31x24, I am looking for the best (cost effective) way to heat it.
I have done one of the wall mounted trailer style furnaces in the past. A couple of buddies have old house furnaces, another told me to do the overhead shop style.
I will be keeping the garage at 55 all winter in order to store paints, glues, batteries etc.
Looking to go with something natural gas.
I have 10' ceilings so the ceiling mount would be possible if they are what is best. I could also mount in the attic above and run ducts if it is best.
Options are wide open.

What is the most cost effective to run?
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Is it too late to heat the floor/slab?
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Old July 22nd, 2013, 01:25 PM   #3
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I have a Reznor ceiling mount natural gas furnace in my garage. It came with the house and I love it. It is awesome to be able to go out to the garage and work on projects, tinker, whatever. I'm not much of a winter sports person so I just hang out in the garage and screw around.
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Interested in floor heat, can I just add another layer of concrete, and put it in that way?
The first foot of the wall is brick all of the way around.
Is this efficient? Will it heat 24x31x10T evenly and effectively?
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Insulate the hell out of it no matter what you do.
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if you consider a woodburning stove, check with your insurance co. first. a relative build a large out building put in heating coils in floor and plumbing for an INSIDE woodburning stove to heat the liquid. his insurance co. told him they will NOT insure a building with an INSIDE wood burning stove.

likely other insurance companies have diff rules/premiums on inside woodburners.
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if you consider a woodburning stove, check with your insurance co. first. a relative build a large out building put in heating coils in floor and plumbing for an INSIDE woodburning stove to heat the liquid. his insurance co. told him they will NOT insure a building with an INSIDE wood burning stove.

likely other insurance companies have diff rules/premiums on inside woodburners.
This just happened to a neighbor they came for a inspection and flagged it. He ended up buying a cornbin to put the stove in then piped the warm air to the barn. The nice thing is he can stack wood in the bin to keep it dry.
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my friend has a 160,000 btu ceiling mount nat. gas furnace cheap if your looking pm me.
it came out of the shop he worked at. worked fine when it was pulled out.
he was gonna use it in his garage, but he got a second smaller one he likes better.
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Go to MKZJ neighbors, get their bucked of shit, and burn in your garage. Smell will go away after a while, and you have a free endless supply of fuel, and your're helping a fellow GL'er. Win/Win
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if you consider a woodburning stove, check with your insurance co. first. a relative build a large out building put in heating coils in floor and plumbing for an INSIDE woodburning stove to heat the liquid. his insurance co. told him they will NOT insure a building with an INSIDE wood burning stove.

likely other insurance companies have diff rules/premiums on inside woodburners.

I have been told the same, but with wanting to keep the heat on constant and control the temp, I am not looking at all at wood burning.
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Interested in floor heat, can I just add another layer of concrete, and put it in that way?
The first foot of the wall is brick all of the way around.
Is this efficient? Will it heat 24x31x10T evenly and effectively?
You can put it on top of existing concrete, either with a full new slab on top of insulation or with a skim coat just over the piping. If you go this route I would go for the slab for durability, seems like that thin stuff never holds up.

Don't know the answers to your other question as I've only poured the mud around the system in the past.
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Go to MKZJ neighbors, get their bucked of shit, and burn in your garage. Smell will go away after a while, and you have a free endless supply of fuel, and your're helping a fellow GL'er. Win/Win
I had no clue what you were talking about, and was like, I don't get it.
I just read her post, and I'll pass. If that were my next door neighbors they would have been convinced to move long ago.
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Cheaper initial cost - overhead natural gas, but gas bill will likely kill.

More expensive initial cost - heated slab, but you will save in the long run if you keep the house.

A buddy of mine has the heated slab, it's really nice when you have to lay on the floor to work on vehicles.
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I just looked at a house with an exterior woodburning stove/boiler that was piped to the barn and the house.
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I have a hanging natural gas infrared heater. It's a 100,000 BTU's and heats my entire 28x28 two story garage in no time. It's great! This time of year you can get deals on craigslist.
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If you plan to install a hoist, make sure you know EXACTLY where the in-floor tubing is located. You rupture a tube, you have issues...
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I have been told the same, but with wanting to keep the heat on constant and control the temp, I am not looking at all at wood burning.
The newer outdoor boilers can do this, you do have to load the wood daily though (once or twice a day)


www.centralboiler.com even has them where you can monitor them from your smartphone LOL.

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The newer outdoor boilers can do this.


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Old July 31st, 2013, 11:58 PM   #20
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I have the overhead natural gas and it works awesome ,not a big hit on the gas bill either. I pay the same as my parents and I have a bigger house plus I keep the garage at 65 all winter
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