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Old July 11th, 2013, 09:08 PM   #21
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I would have to think there are people like the asshat that I dealt with today in every union. There are two more who normally work with him that are almost as bad. One of our union reps said that in one week, these 3 guys had written 20+ grievances and most would probably be dismissed. When would they have time for that if they were working? This is one reason I keep track of the hours on the machines they use. I can tell when they have been working or doing something else.

I think the union needs to have some type of rule about abusing the system. Like if you file a lot of grievances and X number are dismissed for lack of merit, they can kick you out for wasting their time and money. I doubt that would ever happen because they would lose the dues of that person but when the union itself is sick of dealing with somebody because of the crap they pull, it seems it would be better to wash their hands of that person.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 11:27 PM   #22
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Dont' get me wrong here, I like my union. For the most part it has stood up for us.

And I guess with the good part comes with it bad parts. I just was in a confrontation with another worker and union member. I was in my office and he comes in asking if I knew where my overtime roster was. I said no, I don't need one since I am the only person in our division with my job title. He said who told me that and I told him our boss. With a smirk he says interesting and proceeds to call his son who happens to be a union rep. (side note: nobody thinks he should be able to have his son handle his complaints. Seems lke a huge conflict of intrest.) I asked him if he was trying to start more problems. (all he does is find things to get management in trouble for, instead of working) He then goes off and gets loud and takes a step closer toward me. I stand up out of my chair and ask him politely to please leave my office. He says when he is ready. I ask him nicely again. Again, when he is ready. So I jump on my phone and call my supervisor. Once I do he then walks out of my office and stands just outside my door. When I explain what is happening he says he isn't in my office really loudly. I then close and lock my door. All this while he is on the phone with his son. So his son should have been able to hear me asking for him to leave.

The reason I am worked up is because he and others like him are the ones who give unions bad names and they are protected because of the union. They can't get in trouble because the union will fight for them just as the fight for me. These guys play the game so well that they can get away with anything. They look for things to bitch about or ways to get around stuff so they don't have to work as hard as the other people and yet still get paid the same.

The kicker is this guy and two others have bitched and complained and grieved management so much, the union doesn't want anything to do with them anymore either but they have to. Most of the stuff the write grivences about get dismissed but the time it takes to write them, and go to arbitration, and meetings, wastes so much time and money it is rediculous.

Sorry for venting. I am just pissed. I wrote everything that happened down too so I have a record in case he says I did something.
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I think the union needs to have some type of rule about abusing the system. Like if you file a lot of grievances and X number are dismissed for lack of merit, they can kick you out for wasting their time and money. I doubt that would ever happen because they would lose the dues of that person but when the union itself is sick of dealing with somebody because of the crap they pull, it seems it would be better to wash their hands of that person.
It would not work because the union would still have to file their grievances.
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Treat him for beers, tell him "It's time we bury the hatchet!".

Go enjoy your beers, burgers, whatever. Then, on your way to the head, leave.
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Treat him for beers, tell him "It's time we bury the hatchet!".

Go enjoy your beers, burgers, whatever. Then, on your way to the head, leave.
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