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Old August 6th, 2012, 09:22 PM   #1
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A couple years ago I purchased this poor little '77 K10 short bed 4x4 from the Michigan/Indiana border for $700. It ran pretty decent, the front end was all over the road, the body was in decent shape (For Michigan standards) and the 4x4 was pretty solid. (at the time)

I drove the truck as it was for a year during one of the really bad Michigan blizzards and it did exactly what is was built for. As the year went on it started to get a little rusty along the bed edges and a huge chunk of bondo fell off that I apparently missed the first time around inspecting the truck.

Fast forward 3 years later and I'm finally getting around to put some time and money into the old girl.

I have done some tuneup work on the motor so far, but aside from replacing the heater core and a new carb, the interior and front half are completely stock. I have recently gone and stripped the whole rear half of the truck, bed lined the frame and am in the process of putting the new springs/block under the back for a 4" lift. The bed will also be swapped for a Stepside (Wife loves em)









I also have a 2" body lift that will be going on the truck because almost all of the cab/bed mounts are completely shot with 1 of them a 2x4 in it's place. (Previous owner got creative)

I am bed-lining the frame and axle housing and also getting rid of the old drum brakes in favor of a disc brake conversion in the rear. I am still acquiring parts for the brake conversion, but when I get pictures I'll update it.





I don't plan on going wild with this truck, I'm happy with 35's at the largest for this truck and perhaps a cage/rollbar in case I get too crazy with it. I also might do a BBC swap in the future for some deep mud, but for now I'm happy with the progress on it and hope to have the lift finished soon. (Tough when you work and have a little one at home.



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Old August 7th, 2012, 02:04 PM   #2
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sounds like a fun build but w/o the step side
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Old August 7th, 2012, 06:53 PM   #3
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there is no way in hell Id get under anything supported by ramps like those yellow ones!
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there is no way in hell Id get under anything supported by ramps like those yellow ones!

Trust me, I don't get under it either. I moved to this house from a 50x60 shop that could fit eight vehicles to a dirt driveway and a small ten foot shed for my tools and engines. It sucks to have to work on it like this, but I'm definitely safe about it. The ramps are the only thing I have that will keep the truck frame up high enough to get the rear end back on. I didn't put it under there until I already had the bed off and had gotten ready to pull the axle.

It really sucks having to work "weather permitting" too.

Jroberts: Why don't you like the stepsides? I don't plan on hauling anything with the truck, so what difference does it make what's on the back? Just curious.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 10:19 PM   #5
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1. is all the lost space but i guess if your not hauling anything who cares and 2. is with the way that the old step sides were built i.e. meaning using metal and not fiber glass they rust out bc of all the different places for the rust to form. but i do like you build just saying
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Old August 8th, 2012, 10:32 PM   #6
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I've already bed lined the frame and the rear axle. I'll also do the same to the bottom of the bed before I put it on just so I can avoid such a situation in the future.

If I need to haul anything, I'll probably just get a trailer. I need one anyway for my cutlass, but I don't have the money for that yet.
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Old August 8th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #7
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what brand and size tires are you gunna be running?
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Old August 14th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #8
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Given that I don't plan on lifting it any higher than the 4 and 2 that's already going on it, I think 35's will be as large as I would go. I'd be happy with 33's if they are proportionate to the body and not too much fender well.

I will most likely use BFG AT's for general driving and trails but I like Boggers for mud pits. I used a friends' boggers (31") when I did my first pit and I liked how they performed. I'm not really picky on tires really, but I'm not going to be like half the rednecks around here and drive my mud tires on the road all the time.

I don't plan on paying out the butt for lugs just to waste them away by making noise on the highway.

In any case, would you have any suggestions? I don't want to cut the fenders on the truck, so I'm going to stick to something reasonable and not go too outlandish. I will still drive the truck during the winter, so it's not just a play toy for the dunes. (Haven't done that either, maybe later)
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Got quite a bit done, sorry that I haven't stopped by sooner to update, but i've had some problems with getting parts together, money is tight.

So far:

*Finished putting the lift on minus steering arm, extended brake lines and spacer for swaybar. (Steering arm removal is a PITA)

*Refurbished my driveshaft and re-installed

*Got the box on the back, need to replace the flooring before I can put the mounts under it.

*I got new disc brakes, calipers, rotors and pads for the rear that I'm just waiting on mounting brackets (still haven't figured that one out yet) so I can install them.

*I bought new braided brake lines, but the ones given to me for the front are too short, haven't had time to go exchange em.

*Put in a smaller aftermarket steering wheel so I could actually get in the truck without crushing my leg between the wheel and seat. LOL

Overall it doesn't seem like a lot of progress listed out in writing, but when you look at the truck now compared to a few weeks ago, it's a lot considering I only get a few hours each weekend to work on it, MAYBE. Kids take up a lot of time.

I'll update more when I can. I still need taillights, I'm thinking of LED trailer lights for now, instead of buying OEM Stepside replacements.













Now I need bigger tires, although I'll probably have to use the 31's through the winter unless I can sell the three sets I have and get a set of 35's. Craigslist here I come....
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I haven't had much time to update this because the project stalled. Both due to winter having officially killing my timeline to get the truck ready for winter driving and that my Yukon has recently blown out the 2-3 clutch packs in the transmission and will no longer shift out of second gear.

Having both trucks down is a real problem because I don't have the money to finish either right now, especially due to hours being cut at my job the last few months.

I am still struggling to get the steering arm off of the truck, however I managed to score some square tubing to make spacers for the swaybar if/when I get the steering arm changed out and replace the eye bushing for the swaybar.

Then all I have to do is swap out the brakes lines for the braided ones, cut some plates for the rear axle to bolt on the calipers (still working on that one) and put on all the new brake parts I have sitting in the front seat.

Bolt the bed down (Just sitting there for now) and wire in new taillights and I'll be good to go for now, but it's really hard to do in the snow.

That's my update, I'll post more as things develop, but for now I'm going to try and figure out where to come up with a 4l60E for a 98 Yukon when I'm broke. Hmm...
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Sell me the box then you would have some money for the tran's
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I love these old school CHevy trucks.
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Old June 21st, 2013, 08:55 AM   #13
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Wow, lots of developments in the last few months. Has it really been that long? I miss my truck. lol

I managed to finally get a transmission swapped out in the Yukon and it's running great! I even refurbished the drive shafts and put in new U-joints while I was under there. Couldn't hurt.

The '77 has seen some significant progress as well. I got the front brakes on, the new braided lines on, both differentials serviced (turns out the front end was fine, I've just never seen that much axle play in a truck before but was assured it was within spec) Got everything painted up and even got the steering arm on.

The steering arm had to be the worst thing i've ever had to replace on any vehicle. EVER. We heated it up with a torch, beat on it with a sledge, used a five foot solid prybar and an entire can of PB and the PITA would still not come loose. We eventually had to use the torch to cut into the steering arm around the studs to finally get it to break free. We used a punch to spread the steel apart around the studs to get it to finally come loose. Even after getting the inserts to loosen up it still fought me tooth and nail to even come off the studs.

Long story short, the new BDS arm is on, brakes are done in the front and painted, sway bar is ready to be bolted back on (after I get some longer bolts this weekend for the spacers) and I'll replace the diff gaskets and sway bar bushings when they come in from LMC.

I've given up trying to come up with a design for custom bolt on brackets for the rear calipers and just decided to get the universal weld on ones and have my neighbor (who works as a mechanic at a local shop) to weld them on, then the new rear brakes will go on and I'll get ready to fire it back up after sitting for a year!

I'm excited that I finally got some time to get it sorted out. I only needed a full day to take care of it, but between doing repairs on everyone else's vehicles except mine the last few months, it's about time the truck see some progress.

I will be going through my shed and putting a whole list of spare parts up for sale soon. I don't need them and I'm going to be freeing up some space.

The USB ports on my PC are being retarded so I am having trouble getting pictures from my phone to upload, but I have a ton of them. I will put them up soon.

I'm stoked. it's getting closer.....
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Sorry man, the original box was sold when I changed it to a stepside.

On a side note, if anyone is interested I'd like to trade my wheels and tires for a set that is more fitting for the truck with the current lift on it.

I think I can use up to 35's? with just the 4" lift and before I put the 3" body lift on it. I'm not sure what they will fit after that is done.

I have two sets of 31 x 10.50 x 15 tires, various tread patterns, both on original steelies with trim rings and one set of center caps. (I'm pretty sure that's right)
I have a third set of the same size, but in a BFG A/T. One tire has a blown out side wall, one tire holds air with moderate tread and some weather checking between treads and the other two are practically brand new with 90%+ tread.

I'd be interested in trading for tires, tires and rims (old style wagon wheels preferred, but other options considered) or I can have the tires removed from the rims and just trade you tires for tires, your choice.

I don't need brand new tires, I'm OK with used tires, as long as it has at least 60% tread on it as this truck will be a daily driver once it's running again. (I like boggers, but I'd rather not drive them on the pavement. lol)

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Old July 11th, 2013, 06:18 PM   #15
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Lots done.....

I finally got her started last weekend! I got my parts in from LMC, threw on the new diff gaskets, oiled it up, checked all the fluids and filled as necessary, bled the front brakes (clamped off the rear line for now till the rears are done) and with a fresh battery it fired right up.

I also managed to get the body lift on the bed and mounted.

Today I was able to get some free time for her again and decided that the rusty hood and fender look was just bugging the crap out of me. Unfortunately for me, out of the three cans of rust preventative satin paint I had, only one worked although they are all new. So, i had to settle for using one two white cans and one black can to primer the front clip. It took quite some time to sand it down; the old leaded paint is such a pain in the ass.

In any case, I put a base coat on it for now and will add a second coat as soon as I pick up some more cans of paint.

Before anyone asks, I do have a spray gun, and I do have a compressor for it, but I plan on tearing the whole body down when I get the floor pans to weld in so that I can media blast everything and make it nice and smooth. For now this is just a rust preventative coat to keep it from looking like I pulled it from a field.

I also decided that since I will be doing the body lift on the cab soon that the linkage was just to annoying to modify, so I decided to throw in a B&M floor shifter that I had new in a box that was never installed in my cutlass. It fits perfectly next to the transfer case shifter, although I have to modify the bottom cover quite significantly to follow the contours. With the column shifter gone I figured it was as good a place as any to throw my Tac back on that I was trying to figure out where to go.

So piece by piece it's coming together. I'm kind of working all over the place given that I only have certain amounts of money to do things at a time and I already have a ton of new parts laying around.

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My usb ports are no good, i tried to fix them, but out of six of them, only two work, my mouse and keyboard, so pictures are a no go directly from my phone.

Does anyone know of a program or app that I can download pictures to via wireless through my phone so I can upload them to my build thread?

I have a ton of pictures since I last uploaded.

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You don't need a keyboard to save the pictures on your computer. Just drag and drop the file.
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You don't need a keyboard to save the pictures on your computer. Just drag and drop the file.
Fail on my part. Didn't think about that. I have a lot on my mind and my plate, I'm missing the simple stuff apparently. Thanks.
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New braided lines installed, new pads, OEM calipers stripped, painted and re-lubed.





Rotors were good, so I used some light grit sandpaper and just re-surfaced them clean of any accumulated surface rust due to moisture from sitting.

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So I had to move the old girl from it's spot due to some construction here in the yard to re-furbish the drain tile, and by consequence the bed needed to be mounted down.

I installed the body lift on the rear and bolted it down with extra large washers on the bed, however I really need to re-do the floor before I would consider it safe and road-worthy, including putting on the new LED taillights. I'll get to this later.

The stock 31's are looking smaller and smaller now that the rear is sitting around 7" of lift. Holy crap I'm going to need some bigger tires.



I have both filler necks from both fleetside and stepside beds. My original fuel filler hose was completely cracked and destroyed, so I thought about getting some radiator hose to replace it, however I didn't have any spare hose that was small enough diameter to fit it, so for now I've just taped off the tank and I'm waiting to get the money to buy new ones so it can be installed.



Holy Gaps Batman! I knew there would be some space between bumper and bed, but this is enough to hide a homeless man sleeping. I traded a guy a very clean stepside bumper for a new tailgate I had for the fleetside, but it looks like I might have to get some bigger bumpers made to narrow this gap a bit. Ideas? I like the idea of the "alien patrol" style front bumpers for the truck, something to match?

In case you notice the bed and the cab tilted, the truck is sitting level, but the left rear cab mount is the one that someone used a 2x4 to replace, so it's sitting low on the rear corner.



New exhaust is being designed for the truck as well. I'm torn between putting 2 1/2" pipe to my mufflers to a 3" out and downturn before the rear axle, OR 2 1/2" pipe to mufflers to 3" out to the sides and Diesel stacks above the step sides. Could look a bit like the old red dodge trucks without the shielding. Thoughts?
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