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Old July 2nd, 2013, 03:31 PM   #281
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Sounds like he should just do a 4bt cummins swap. It would be awesome, Tune it a bit and you are set. It's an awesome heart for a good off/on road rig. You also get the bonus of no electrical issues to worry about/ No harness. It would get you better mpg than the 4.7 stroker. You'd be keeping it chrysler also. You going to run a atlas also? What are your options for transfer case?
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 07:40 AM   #282
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Sounds like he should just do a 4bt cummins swap. It would be awesome, Tune it a bit and you are set. It's an awesome heart for a good off/on road rig. You also get the bonus of no electrical issues to worry about/ No harness. It would get you better mpg than the 4.7 stroker. You'd be keeping it chrysler also. You going to run a atlas also? What are your options for transfer case?
Cummins does not equal Chrysler
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 08:37 AM   #283
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are we still talking about this ??? this should be a classic and renamed 'how i never got to 3rd base, but wanted to'
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 09:09 AM   #284
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Old July 3rd, 2013, 10:10 AM   #285
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Screw the motor, buy these:

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Old July 7th, 2013, 12:28 AM   #286
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Old July 7th, 2013, 06:15 AM   #287
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So has a choice been made for the motor yet?
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Old July 7th, 2013, 12:46 PM   #288
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Use a 95-00 Dakota bell and mount a bolt up a supercharged GM 3800 to that nv 3550.

You can get a entire second gen donor car for around $800. If you know someone in the collision business head to a dealer auction and find a 3rd gen one that has been rear ended or rolled. There is a freaking security thing on some of them but it is easily fixed if you ask around.

It is one of the lesser done swaps and stuff is out there to make it damn near plug and play. A second gen swap(entire 150k donor car, junk yard bell, mounts, aftermarket plug/play harness and all the little things that add up) you should be able to realistically swap it in a 2nd gen under 2k doing the work yourself.

The third gen is much better tuning wise then the 2nd. But get what you can afford to stuff it in there kind of deal. The amount of power and torque you can get out of a supercharged 3.8 with a few simple and mods (like a simple pulley swap which makes more boost for example). Best of all these things are like everywhere. The bottom ends on the second gen are damn near bulletproof in stock supercharged form.

Probably the best benefit is that the supercharger does not kick in till under heavy load in stock form which means "in many cases" despite needing to run 91 octane it will cost less per mile to drive then most of the other stroked engines you are considering. In stock form a supercharged 3800 will give you enough of a boost in power to make a difference while not making it at a rpm range that is going to break parts.

The only downfall of these engines is that they do not like an high compression ratio. There is really no need to up the compression though you can spline twisting amounts of power by messing with the top end alone if you decide to at a later time.

That's just my 0.02 considering reading this thread up to this point. Run what you want its your money after all. But, not to many people will look at a supercharged jeep as a bad thing.
I don't think a 3.8 would make the power I'm after especially at a low enough rpm. I want torque for in the rocks but it would be great for climbing
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Old July 7th, 2013, 12:52 PM   #289
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Sounds like he should just do a 4bt cummins swap. It would be awesome, Tune it a bit and you are set. It's an awesome heart for a good off/on road rig. You also get the bonus of no electrical issues to worry about/ No harness. It would get you better mpg than the 4.7 stroker. You'd be keeping it chrysler also. You going to run a atlas also? What are your options for transfer case?
From what I hear a 4bt is an expensive swap! Atlas at some point just gonna run the np231 at first

Saw that but not a fan of doge 1 tons and there isn't much aftermarket support for dana 70s besides id still have a fucked up motor lol

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So has a choice been made for the motor yet?
No gonna either be a built 5.2, 5.7 hemi or 5.3 just have to find out which would be cheaper. Also knowone told me the difference in the 2 adapters I linked to and where they got the $1500 price tag from the adapter for a 5.3 to nv3550
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No gonna either be a built 5.2, 5.7 hemi or 5.3 just have to find out which would be cheaper. Also knowone told me the difference in the 2 adapters I linked to and where they got the $1500 price tag from the adapter for a 5.3 to nv3550
I will spell it out to you. Anything other than another stock 4.0, even rebuilt, won't be not expensive.
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Old July 7th, 2013, 08:17 PM   #291
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I know that just trying to figure out the cheapest route that isn't getting another 4.0
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Old July 7th, 2013, 08:31 PM   #292
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I realize that just need to figure out what the cheapest route to take would be minus another 4.0
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Old July 7th, 2013, 09:26 PM   #293
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I realize that just need to figure out what the cheapest route to take would be minus another 4.0
They will all be within a grand. If that's too much of a spread, you probably can't afford it anyways.
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Old July 7th, 2013, 09:49 PM   #294
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Cant believe no one else said it, stroke the 4.0 to a 5.3, only costs like 45$ and takes like 20 minutes. Retards....
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Cant believe no one else said it, stroke the 4.0 to a 5.3, only costs like 45$ and takes like 20 minutes. Retards....
That sounds way cheaper.
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Old July 8th, 2013, 06:26 AM   #296
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One minute you are talking about performance, the next you are talking about cost. They don't = each other. Pick one.
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One minute you are talking about performance, the next you are talking about cost. They don't = each other. Pick one.
He's a hopelessly lost ass clown, it's past funnay at this point. The only thing that is clear at this point is that he has no fucking clue about engines or what it's going to take to swap them so his figures should include paying someone to do it for him if he hopes to ever drive it again after he starts pulling the current engine out. Thread on cheapest person to do engine swap in 3.....2.......1...........
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Old July 8th, 2013, 01:50 PM   #298
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I still had more engine tranny combos to suggest
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Old July 8th, 2013, 02:33 PM   #299
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Suggest away, I don't see him listening to anything anyways. Dodge V10's have tons of low end torque
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