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Old June 28th, 2013, 11:37 AM   #21
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My excuse is I was too self involved and didn't appreciate what you guys provide for me.

I wish I would have served.
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I have a big problem with the people who think they're better than civilians because they served. Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for the troops and what they do, the risks they take, and the sacrifices they make, but the superiority complex bugs the sh1t out of me. You're not better than me because you served any more than a white collar execurtive is better than blue collar worker; we all made a choice with our paths but that doesn't define who we are. I've known some great, honorable military members who get nothing but respect from me, but unfortunately I've known just as many who were lowlifes and joined cuz they had no other options.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 11:58 AM   #22
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Old June 28th, 2013, 12:01 PM   #23
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My younger cousin talked nothing but marines growing up, signed up a bunch of weekend drills when he was in high school, wore nothing but marnine shirts and talked about nothing else but he is kinda a story teller so I figured I would see what happened after he got out of school. When he graduated they had all plans of shipping him off that summer to go to boot camp. Well long story short he got scared when it came close to that time and started doing all the drugs he could to fail every piss test they gave him. So they dropped him eventually cause he wouldn't clean out so he won, I just always thought that was a funny way not to go after you've signed on the dotted line.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 12:20 PM   #24
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I knew someone who kept telling everyone he was going to join but never did. Found out from the recruiter that he kept failing the test. I was too skinny 6'3' 135lbs(I've only gained 2 inches in height but doubled in weight since then. Lying recruiter told me they destroy the records after 1 year so I back down to the AFEES building and tried again. I went thru the physical and everything else but when it came time to sign the form saying I had never tried to enlist and nobody had told me how to answer the questions I didn't like the part about 10 years or $10,000 fine so I walked out. On the way out they handed me a folder with all my previous info saying that I had been declared permantly ineligble. Lying bastard recruiter wouldn't even come back down to Detoilet and drive me back.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 12:27 PM   #25
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I was going to join! I swear! My dad was a lifer in the Army. His life advice to me was to either military, college, or a skilled trade and don't share you cars or women with your friends.

After long thought I hated all the moving around we did. I started out in college, but was too short minded to see past my nose so I got into a skilled trade instead!
My story is pretty similar. When I was of 'enlistment age' it was peacetime, and there really wasn't an incentive to leave a good paying job to join.
My dad was Air Force, an he was discharged before I was born, so my mom got all the moving to deal with instead of me...

Kinda wish I had now.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 12:40 PM   #26
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I watched three guys from my high school sign up, one being hardcore rotc and all that jazz. They all found ways out of it once they got to boot camp, and I haven't talked to them since. One faked his asthma attacks from when he was a kid, one purposely hurt himself, and I don't remember what the last one did.

My mom and grandma said "I'm too smart to go into the military". Just like they said I was "too smart" for football. I never understood that and probably never will. They also said I was too smart to be a welder :Sonicjay:

I never really pursued it, but if I was needed I would sign up no problem. Not particularly fond of the man in charge, but I have a lot of respect for the armed forces. Save a couple delinquents here and there.

I'm not sure if they would accept me with my janky ankle and lower back tweak though.

To all of you guys that have served on here, much respect and thank you for what you have done. If you ever meet me, make sure I buy you a drink.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 12:51 PM   #27
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Nice save, cuz I definitely got a bit of a D-bag impression from the first post. I have a big problem with the people who think they're better than civilians because they served. Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for the troops and what they do, the risks they take, and the sacrifices they make, but the superiority complex bugs the sh1t out of me. You're not better than me because you served any more than a white collar execurtive is better than blue collar worker; we all made a choice with our paths but that doesn't define who we are. I've known some great, honorable military members who get nothing but respect from me, but unfortunately I've known just as many who were lowlifes and joined cuz they had no other options.

As for me, I didn't serve. I chose college and a career because that's what I was always brought up planning/expecting to do. Military was never really a big consideration for me. If it had been, my parents probably would've tried to talk me out of it....they're the types who worry about everything and would've expected the worst.
The Marine Corps has helped to define who I am. I know I come off as a dick and a douche to others, but I can get past it!

I don't look down on others for not serving.

"I was going to join the Marines but I didn't want to scare my family when I got back from boot camp."
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"I was going to join the military but I really love my girl."

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They medicalled me out after a serious back injury. So then I became a defense contractor and went right back aboard...

And this is when it was hard - in the early 80s, only mental patients and recruits/candidates had buzz cuts. :sonic jay:

In all honesty, I respect all that make the choice.

And at the risk of looking like an old guy (more than normal) I really think we need to reinstate the draft.

For years and years, those young men without direction were inducted into the military where they gained basic life skills, marketable job skills, self-discipline, and direction. They became better people and citizens as a result, understanding that they are part of a larger society.

Today, we have hoardes of "eternal adolescents" who are essentially 25 or 30 year-old teenagers who think they're the nucleus of their own little universe.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 01:43 PM   #29
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They medicalled me out after a serious back injury. So then I became a defense contractor and went right back aboard...

And this is when it was hard - in the early 80s, only mental patients and recruits/candidates had buzz cuts. :sonic jay:

In all honesty, I respect all that make the choice.

And at the risk of looking like an old guy (more than normal) I really think we need to reinstate the draft.

For years and years, those young men without direction were inducted into the military where they gained basic life skills, marketable job skills, self-discipline, and direction. They became better people and citizens as a result, understanding that they are part of a larger society.

Today, we have hoardes of "eternal adolescents" who are essentially 25 or 30 year-old teenagers who think they're the nucleus of their own little universe.
My Dad shares that same sentiment.
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And at the risk of looking like an old guy (more than normal) I really think we need to reinstate the draft.

For years and years, those young men without direction were inducted into the military where they gained basic life skills, marketable job skills, self-discipline, and direction. They became better people and citizens as a result, understanding that they are part of a larger society.

Today, we have hoardes of "eternal adolescents" who are essentially 25 or 30 year-old teenagers who think they're the nucleus of their own little universe.
I'm only 23, well, 23 on Monday, and I agree with you 100%. I have too many deadbeat friends from high school.

Kettering didn't have many deadbeats because they get weeded out so early. If you don't go to college and are not working a full time job, you get to serve.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 02:36 PM   #31
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I'm only 23, well, 23 on Monday, and I agree with you 100%. I have too many deadbeat friends from high school.

Kettering didn't have many deadbeats because they get weeded out so early. If you don't go to college and are not working a full time job, you get to serve.
Agreed. My brother in-law is a total fuck-up drain on society.....armed services would do him a lot of good. He's actually a really smart kid just super lazy and has absolutely no ambition
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Old June 28th, 2013, 02:49 PM   #32
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And I'm not implying that all young guys are "without direction".

History tells us that those with direction will go to school at Kettering (as an old GMI guy, I struggle with that) or maybe somewhere with women, start on a career path in the trades, or otherwise start "life".

Others mill about and "fail to launch" in life. These guys need that additional socialization the military provides. I know many people my age and older who's lives were put onto a good path by a stint in the military.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 02:50 PM   #33
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I was going to join the military but I didn't want to.
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I had my head too far up my ass at 18/19 to sign up.


I I have spent the last 8 years working my way into a decent job and buying a house. I have been in a few long relationships that crashed and burned.

Things seemed so clear at 18, my goals and plans inarguable. Now I look back and wonder wtf I was thinking.


I spoke with a recruiter last summer(25 years old). The metal in my left elbow, history of epilepsy and a few other injuries keept me from passing the medical.


I work with an ex marine, he is a compile dbag with a side of fat fukc . Most exmilitary guys are average and normal but a few have that uniform a little too far up the ass.
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Old June 28th, 2013, 07:03 PM   #35
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Smart people don't join the military
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They medicalled me out after a serious back injury. So then I became a defense contractor and went right back aboard...

And this is when it was hard - in the early 80s, only mental patients and recruits/candidates had buzz cuts. :sonic jay:

In all honesty, I respect all that make the choice.

And at the risk of looking like an old guy (more than normal) I really think we need to reinstate the draft.

For years and years, those young men without direction were inducted into the military where they gained basic life skills, marketable job skills, self-discipline, and direction. They became better people and citizens as a result, understanding that they are part of a larger society.

Today, we have hoardes of "eternal adolescents" who are essentially 25 or 30 year-old teenagers who think they're the nucleus of their own little universe.
I'm a 40yo teenager pops!
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I went in the USCG at 17 with a buddy, he lasted about two weeks and claimed a history of migraines and was discharged. I ended up doing my 20 and retired in 2008, he will still bring up his migraines and what if.
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I was a 3c0x1 in the military (computer systems specialist). assigned to a combat comm unit...

some of my friends are SERE/TACP/Combat drivers etc... this guy came into wherever it was we were hanging out (we were drinking most the day), bragging about how bad ass he was and he was to bad ass for the military. after challenging him to that statement he told us the went to the marine recruiters and they told him he was "to much of a bad ass for the marines", and thats why he didnt join.

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I had two friends in high school that, after I just enlisted at the age of 17, tell me that they "Didn't want to take the easy way out." Now one is dead from dinking and driving and the other just got his own place at the age of 28.
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