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Old June 27th, 2013, 10:51 AM   #1
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A few years back I posted pictures of the chop job a roofing company did..lets just call them Hansons... I paid for the 30 year warrant for the job and shingles.... I also paid for a proprietary product that was to go on my entire roof...well now a few years have passed and I have moss growing in a valley... ( Noted that i have no trees)After I had them come out and do a inspection... We found out that the sub contractor had put water and ice on my entire roof. It was also noticed the we have water under our shingles .

We are asking that they replace the entire roof because the product we paid for was never ąpplied... My question is... What are the downsides of ice and water shield on the entire roof? I would think a roof has tar paper so it can breath a bit .
Last fall we also had a solar attic fan installed because of the beastly heat we had upstairs. That seems to have evened out the distribution of heat and cold .

Any thoughts about the advantage of water and ice or disadvantage .
The inspector ( Hansons) submitted his report to replace the entire roof, facia, and soffits along with fixing all our gutters that they hung incorrectly . We hope that the company will do it right...but we are not holding our breath. Maybe a call to dial a lawyer is in order!
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You're talking about the water and ice sheathing? I thought that would be ok for the entire roof.
Quotes I have been getting have stated they would apply that sheathing type on all edges and valleys.

I would also like to tell roofing companies that if you have what appears to look like a crack head on your crew do not send him out to do your quotes.
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Only one of the 6 that didn't have a tether and spoke English could drive.. They also hired the unemployed neighbor of mine for a few hours !
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Only one of the 6 that didn't have a tether and spoke English could drive.. They also hired the unemployed neighbor of mine for a few hours !
sounds waaay sketchy.


last time i did a roof, ice and water only went in the valleys and edges. tar papered the rest.
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sounds waaay sketchy.


last time i did a roof, ice and water only went in the valleys and edges. tar papered the rest.
same here. usally 2 rows from the bottom edge then all tar paper.
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All I can say is good luck. I had a reputable contractor do my roof a few years back and as it turned out the white shingles all started turning brown/black long before the warranty was up. To bad take some off and send them to the manufacture. Warranty ya pro rated and nothing to cover labor cost. What a joke of a warranty.
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Code for ice and water is 2 feet inside and exterior wall. So that is normally 2 or 3 rows depending on pitch


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Code for ice and water is 2 feet inside and exterior wall. So that is normally 2 or 3 rows depending on pitch


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Alot of times on a dormer, covered porch, or if the roof pitch is fairly flat, say 2/12, we've used ice and water shield on the entire roof surface.
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As long as the ventalation is correct, having ice and water on the entire roof is a plus. The only reason it's not used on entire roof areas all the time is due to increased cost. Almost all high end homes and roof systems use ice and water shield on the entire roof areas.
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As long as the ventalation is correct, having ice and water on the entire roof is a plus. The only reason it's not used on entire roof areas all the time is due to increased cost. Almost all high end homes and roof systems use ice and water shield on the entire roof areas.
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And he would know... Jeremy is a roofing contractor...
Of the dozens of contractors I know and work with in virtually every field he's the first and only call I would make on this subject.
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Thanks..Jeremy I trust your assessment ..our roof is a 12/12 pitch , but I guess it's better to have it all over since its there I won't bitch because its a expensive add on. ....now we have to address the moss and the shitty trim work .
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All I can say is good luck. I had a reputable contractor do my roof a few years back and as it turned out the white shingles all started turning brown/black long before the warranty was up. To bad take some off and send them to the manufacture. Warranty ya pro rated and nothing to cover labor cost. What a joke of a warranty.
I thought the black discoloration on light colored shingles was a form of algae, I hit some dark spots on my old house with oxygen bleach, shit came right off.
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I thought the black discoloration on light colored shingles was a form of algae, I hit some dark spots on my old house with oxygen bleach, shit came right off.
These are caused by a defect in the shingles. Some about iron oxide or some such thing. I do not remember right now what the actual cause was but I just know it was nto real cheap to have the roof done and shingles start changing colors maybew 5 years later. Might not have been even that long.
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Well I heard from Hansons today....there response was..... We can send someone out to give you a quote on how much it would be to make the repairs.
So much for the Hansons 30/30 Guarentee...quote " a true 30 year Guarentee on materials and labor gives you peace of mind that your Roof will protect your home for the next 30 years, only Hansons to call with problems and questions"


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