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Old May 28th, 2013, 04:39 PM   #21
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I installed mine myself with the help of Tab, Creative Fab, Pburley & a neighbor. Plan on a day and supply the beer & burgers afterwards.

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Old May 28th, 2013, 04:44 PM   #22
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OK.... well, I have a barn with an existing floor and footers designed for a standard 2 post lift. I don't think I want to mess with an in-floor lift.


I am not a heavy user of this stuff anymore, just want to be able to lift my vehicles when I want to work on them.
If you have a large work area, above ground hoists are cheap and easy. The thing I've never liked about them is the interference when you have to go in and out of the vehicle. I like in ground for times when you have to work under the dash for things like blower motors, resistors, steering column work etc. I lift the car to a comfortable position for me and get to work. If I had a larger shop, an above ground would be nice for exhaust work, transmission, etc. I can do all that with a single post in ground but it is a pain sometimes. A dual post in ground would be awesome for me.
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If you have a large work area, above ground hoists are cheap and easy. The thing I've never liked about them is the interference when you have to go in and out of the vehicle. I like in ground for times when you have to work under the dash for things like blower motors, resistors, steering column work etc. I lift the car to a comfortable position for me and get to work. If I had a larger shop, an above ground would be nice for exhaust work, transmission, etc. I can do all that with a single post in ground but it is a pain sometimes. A dual post in ground would be awesome for me.
Would love to have an in ground 2 post. Best way to maximize space in a shop. I just dislike the cost and what it takes to install. Maybe one day I can have both.
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Would love to have an in ground 2 post. Best way to maximize space in a shop. I just dislike the cost and what it takes to install. Maybe one day I can have both.
I say go for it
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My buddies dad has an in ground 2 post! After using that, I will eventually have one in my barn when I buy a house!
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What I find funny is its always the people who don't actually have a house and barn, who always say buy the most expensive stuff. LOL. I guess if you are spending fantasy money on a house anyway, might as well spend a little more fantasy money (hey, you probably just got a fantasy raise, since you are so valuable to your fantasy company)...

I built the barn with an above ground 2 post in mind. For what I do, I want complete access underneath and clear floor. Exhaust, driveline, plumbing, brake and wheel jobs, lifting bodies on/off, etc. I don't have buddies using the shop, or do side jobs, or whatever. The in floor stuff isn't on the list. I have the space on either sides for the columns.

The Jeep I'm working on now, I will be doing a lot of raising then lowering the body, and rolling the chassis in and out, as I try to fit the driveline in there. Can't do that on the 2 post in ground, there isn't enough space.

They work well for production shops that can afford the triple price tag, and space is a premium, and do certain types of jobs.
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My preference is the above ground symmetric. I worked for more than 20 years in a shop with two in-ground Globe Hoists, have two above ground lifts in the current shop. For transmission and exhaust work, the above ground is best. The only downfall I have seen, is the interference between the door and the hoist posts. I am doing a heater core on a Grand Cherokee today, I have it backed into the shop, away from the hoists. If I had other techs in the shop, it would be an issue. But I am such an asshole, I will be working in solitude for the duration.
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What I find funny is its always the people who don't actually have a house and barn, who always say buy the most expensive stuff. LOL. I guess if you are spending fantasy money on a house anyway, might as well spend a little more fantasy money (hey, you probably just got a fantasy raise, since you are so valuable to your fantasy company)...

I built the barn with an above ground 2 post in mind. For what I do, I want complete access underneath and clear floor. Exhaust, driveline, plumbing, brake and wheel jobs, lifting bodies on/off, etc. I don't have buddies using the shop, or do side jobs, or whatever. The in floor stuff isn't on the list. I have the space on either sides for the columns.

The Jeep I'm working on now, I will be doing a lot of raising then lowering the body, and rolling the chassis in and out, as I try to fit the driveline in there. Can't do that on the 2 post in ground, there isn't enough space.

They work well for production shops that can afford the triple price tag, and space is a premium, and do certain types of jobs.
FYI,.......the one big mistake I made was putting one of the post too close to the side wall. Now I have to walk around the car to get from front to back on the one side.
I just hired a contractor to come in and add an addition on to that side of the barn so I can get between the post and the wall. $1500 dollar mistake on my part.
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How close did you put it?
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FYI, it seems obvious in retrospect, but make your ceilings well over 12 foot high. Challenger makes a lift specifically designed to fit under 12 foot ceilings, and when you unpack it, it measures 12' 2". Been there done that. Horrible customer support from them.
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And a flat floor. I had to deal with a sloped floor for a center drain.
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How close did you put it?

12 inches..............complete miss, on my part in the layout. I wasn't thinking about the car when it was only partially lifted on the hoist. When it is all the way up, there is no problem.
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Mine is close to the wall also but it was necessary due to my layout. I don't find it that big of a deal because the hoist is usually all the way up (walk under the arms) or down (step over) Yes, there are times it is waist high and I have to walk around but I need the exercise. I agree, in a perfect world I would have a walkway around both sides.

RE height, you need about 11 1/2 ft.
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Right on the garage I'm building right now we poured a thicker spot for the hoist it's 3' away from the wall and we have 12' 6" ceilings :)

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What I find funny is its always the people who don't actually have a house and barn, who always say buy the most expensive stuff. LOL. I guess if you are spending fantasy money on a house anyway, might as well spend a little more fantasy money (hey, you probably just got a fantasy raise, since you are so valuable to your fantasy company)...

I built the barn with an above ground 2 post in mind. For what I do, I want complete access underneath and clear floor. Exhaust, driveline, plumbing, brake and wheel jobs, lifting bodies on/off, etc. I don't have buddies using the shop, or do side jobs, or whatever. The in floor stuff isn't on the list. I have the space on either sides for the columns.

The Jeep I'm working on now, I will be doing a lot of raising then lowering the body, and rolling the chassis in and out, as I try to fit the driveline in there. Can't do that on the 2 post in ground, there isn't enough space.

They work well for production shops that can afford the triple price tag, and space is a premium, and do certain types of jobs.
Well if I build the house I want (which is the plan now, but a lot can change) I would do it exactly how I want and do it right the first time. I want a smaller house with a big barn full of lots of toys
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I have a 12ft ceilings, so I'm looking at the units that are 11'10" tall. My floor is completely flat.

I designed my barn so both bays are to the middle, and there is area on either side.


Sounds like more people prefer the symmetric style. Most of the vehicles I have are 50/50 weight distribution, so I think a symmetric, centered in the 30 ft depth will work well for me.

I don't have any nice layout photos, but here's a couple of where its going. It would be in the left bay, centered in the building.





There should be about 7 ft between the post and the loft area (left post would be about where the right rear tire of the CJ7 is), and then there is a good amount of space between the bays. The XJ in the pictures is just about centered in the hoist bay, and the tractor is in the other bay. So I think there is clearance all around just fine.





Currently, my boys are using the lift bay as their TV room....

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As a point of interest, I have my rolling chassis, minus any tub, cage, etc on my symmetrical right now with the arms towards the engine adjusted longer than the rear. I thought it might be a bit heavy at the engine end but it seems very stable. I will move it back some when it's time to do any twisting/wrenching on it.
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Well if I build the house I want (which is the plan now, but a lot can change) I would do it exactly how I want and do it right the first time. I want a smaller house with a big barn full of lots of toys
Its the mistake of youth, trying to have it all perfect the first go-around. You won't know what you really want and don't want until you've had a house or two, and a garage or two.

The in floor hoist is good if you run a shop and do vehicle maintenence, but not as good for vehicle fabrication. My garage is a fabrication style shop, albeit one that works at a very slow pace..
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Haggar, I am glad I will not be the only one using a squeegee and brooms to push water to the floor drains I do a high volume of work year round, and I wish I had graded the floor very slightly. But both hoist are perfectly plumb, with zero shims.
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