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Old May 22nd, 2013, 08:53 AM   #21
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Did the lift come with a track bar relocation bracket that attaches to the front axle? My RC 4.5" lift did and I had terrible death wobble. I found that the bracket was just stamped steel and had no support to keep it from crushing when the bolt was tightened down. I put a spacer in and it was able to tighten up properly and it got rid of the death wobble.

My wobble was so bad people would back off behind me because they didn't know what the hell was going on with the Jeep. 45mph was fine, 46 was a no go.
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 09:24 AM   #22
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Not sure that the track bar would give you death wobble, but the rest is good to check. I am not a pro, but I am fairly certain the track bar just centers the axle and keeps it from letting your axle slide left or right too far. If it was womped out you would notice quite a bit of play in your steering I am pretty sure. Again I am not a professional mechanic, just my 2 cents
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Interesting that your track bar caused the death wobble, but makes sense now that I think about it. Mine had about an inch of play from womped out bolt hole and bad bushing for about a year and I never got DW from it, just really bad steering play, which when mixed with a bad stabilizer, or any other bad steering component could easily cause the wobble.

Tires definitely.
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He said the track bar was replaced though. I know a lot of the local auto parts stores sell track bars that come with tons of play from using crap bushings, maybe the track bar he got has that kinda play. The question is, what is starting the wobble. Like I said, mine was caused by bad UCAs letting the axle shift when I hit bumps or let off the gas after acceleration.
You should stop while you are still behind. The track bar is 99% of the time the first thing that is worn out enough to allow deathwobble.
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 09:45 AM   #23
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Hey Jake you already have the answer. Lose end on tracbar. Take that shit back to the zone and get a moog, napa premium, or oem. I can get you a deal on a napa premium .

If you have a buddy with a xj swap his tracbar as a test or go to lkq and get a clean used one for a test. You can return it within thirty days at lkq and buy a new one if it fixis your problem.

I tried a zone tracbar a few yrs ago and it lasted all of 5 weeks.
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 07:47 PM   #24
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Track bar mount on frame is el shot-o

Rough country adjustable? They say it is for 4-6" of lift... Will it fit?

Says it needs drop Pitman arm... does it really, is it because of the required lift requiring a drop Pitman arm?
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 09:09 PM   #25
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I suggest a iron rock offroad double sheer track bar with heim mount prob cost around $180
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Old May 22nd, 2013, 10:00 PM   #26
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I suggest a iron rock offroad double sheer track bar with heim mount prob cost around $180
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 09:41 AM   #27
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Ordered a setup from iron rock off-road this morning. Here by Tuesday.




Will report later to help the trolls for future reference.
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U should b good to go with that iro double sheer track bar.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 12:51 PM   #29
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U should b good to go with that iro double sheer track bar.
After talking to the guy, I might have to relocate the hole back to oem on the axle mounting side. We will see.
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 12:58 PM   #30
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After talking to the guy, I might have to relocate the hole back to oem on the axle mounting side. We will see.
That is common.

When you go with a OEM track bar, and like a 3" lift, its typical to just redrill the hole 3/4" over, to account for the need for a longer track bar. Now that you are buying an aftermarket one that is adjustable and longer, you can go back to the OEM hole on the axle side, and then just adjust the length to center the axle.

I never changed the pitman arm on any of my 3" lift XJs.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 09:25 AM   #31
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To add closure, here is a list of everything that I did in my position to remove death wobble after installing a 3" lift on a 00 xj:

1. Double shear track bar from iron rock off-road
2. All new steering from Pittman arm to knuckles
3. Kyb steering stabilizer
4. Added shims to increase caster (I put 1/4" plate in there)
5. Iron Rock off-road hd tie rod (I could flex the oem by at least 1/2" in either direction)
6. Ball joints, wheel bearings, and u joints. (All were original from what it looked like, not pretty)

Tires could still probably use a rebalance, need to be replaced by winter...

Thanks everyone for your input. She drove it from Muskegon to Kalamazoo on the highway with almost no issue. Only actual problem now is that the abs kicks on&off around 15-0 mph when stopping...
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Old July 29th, 2013, 09:40 AM   #32
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I had to replace all the control arm bushings on my wife's 2000 xj to get rid of her death wobble . But that was after I already replaced everything else.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 10:17 AM   #33
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I had to replace all the control arm bushings on my wife's 2000 xj to get rid of her death wobble . But that was after I already replaced everything else.
That will probably be done sometime in the near future as well... but I'll probably make a shop deal with the uppers... at least the bushing in the axle housing... maybe.
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To add closure, here is a list of everything that I did in my position to remove death wobble after installing a 3" lift on a 00 xj:

1. Double shear track bar from iron rock off-road
2. All new steering from Pittman arm to knuckles
3. Kyb steering stabilizer
4. Added shims to increase caster (I put 1/4" plate in there)
5. Iron Rock off-road hd tie rod (I could flex the oem by at least 1/2" in either direction)
6. Ball joints, wheel bearings, and u joints. (All were original from what it looked like, not pretty)

Tires could still probably use a rebalance, need to be replaced by winter...

Thanks everyone for your input. She drove it from Muskegon to Kalamazoo on the highway with almost no issue. Only actual problem now is that the abs kicks on&off around 15-0 mph when stopping...
The steering stabilizer only MASKS the problems and won't fix any death wobble.
You don't need a drop pitman arm for that set up as if you installed one.

Check the bushings in the upper and lower control arms then get your tires balanced and make sure your rims are not bent.
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The steering stabilizer only MASKS the problems and won't fix any death wobble.
You don't need a drop pitman arm for that set up as if you installed one.

Check the bushings in the upper and lower control arms then get your tires balanced and make sure your rims are not bent.
Thanks for the thread revival idiot, and that is already what had been talked about.

I plan on going to fixed uca and adjustable lca since I don't trust stock, and eventually plan on this being a steerable wheeler for seasonal roads and whatever else. Everything is working properly at this point in time.
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how's all that workin out?
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how's all that workin out?
Good, although you already knew that after we drank beers for a couple hours
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