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Old May 23rd, 2013, 07:06 AM   #1
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Default Pope Francis states "Atheists can be good"

This guy is pretty damn cool.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...ts-can-be-good
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 07:13 AM   #2
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Wow, a religious leader I can respect.
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I like that guy. I hope he gets to stick around for a while.
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Wow, a religious leader I can respect.
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Can't wait to hear LC4X and aber61 chime in on this.
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Can't wait to hear LC4X and aber61 chime in on this.
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Jesus clearly said, the only way to the Father(heaven) is through Him(Jesus). By accepting Christ as your savior.
You can do all the good deeds your little heart desires but that does not get you saved.
I will have to disagree with the pope on this one.
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Jesus clearly said, the only way to the Father(heaven) is through Him(Jesus). By accepting Christ as your savior.
You can do all the good deeds your little heart desires but that does not get you saved.
I will have to disagree with the pope on this one.
But isn't the pope chosen by God? How would He choose someone who would speak such blasphemy??

Or are aber and woohoo just better Christians than the pope?
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Old May 23rd, 2013, 03:12 PM   #9
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But isn't the pope chosen by God? How would He choose someone who would speak such blasphemy??

Or are aber and woohoo just better Christians than the pope?
The pope is chosen by other priests ,not God.
What I am referring to is what Christ Himself said. Nobody is good enough to go to heaven by being good.
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The pope is chosen by other priests ,not God.
What I am referring to is what Christ Himself said. Nobody is good enough to go to heaven by being good.
So anyone that's a christian can go to heaven? Being a good person is just an afterthought?

Well...that explains a lot
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The pope is chosen by other priests ,not God.
What I am referring to is what Christ Himself said. Nobody is good enough to go to heaven by being good.
I don't think that the pope was really saying that he thought that people could get to heaven just by being good. I think he was just saying that Christians should not automatically judge someone as evil just because they don't believe in Jesus, and they should be willing to work with people that have different beliefs to achieve a greater good. As usual the media picked a few lines to quote to make it sound like a bigger story than it really is.
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The pope is chosen by other priests ,not God.
What I am referring to is what Christ Himself said. Nobody is good enough to go to heaven by being good.
Ironic.

Pope was chosen by men, not God. His word is invalid.

BUT

The Bible is the word of God even though it was written by men. Valid.


Da fuq?
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So anyone that's a christian can go to heaven? Being a good person is just an afterthought?

Well...that explains a lot
That is the belief of many, and yes, it does explain a lot.
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He's just tricking non-believers. Good job Pope!
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So the priests determine the color of the smoke?
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So anyone that's a christian can go to heaven? Being a good person is just an afterthought?

Well...that explains a lot

Christianity 101, A person needs to make the choice to accept Christ as thier Lord and Savior. To believe that Christ is who He said He was and that He died for the sin of the world.
Being good is not good enough. Most people are good and decent people. If that is all it took to go to heaven then why did God send His Son to die on a cross for our sin? To accept Christ is the first step and the rest is up to God to change in you.

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I don't think that the pope was really saying that he thought that people could get to heaven just by being good. I think he was just saying that Christians should not automatically judge someone as evil just because they don't believe in Jesus, and they should be willing to work with people that have different beliefs to achieve a greater good. As usual the media picked a few lines to quote to make it sound like a bigger story than it really is.

Again it is not about the gretaer good. One can believe if they are good enough they get to go to heaven but that is simply not true. Jesus is the only way.

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Da fuq?
I guess you could say they prayed about it and all came to the same conclusion that this pope was the one that God choose.
There are 66 books within the Bible and over 40 different authors, written over a 1500 year period, in 3 different languages and on 3 different continents with no historical errors or contradictions from Genisis to Revelations. It bears the mark of Divine inspiration. Check it out, your destination is important.


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I guess you could say they prayed about it and all came to the same conclusion that this pope was the one that God choose.
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Be a detective and investigate the bible, read it and talk to people who know it, a pastor would be a good place to start.
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Again it is not about the gretaer good. One can believe if they are good enough they get to go to heaven but that is simply not true. Jesus is the only way.
And again, I did not see anywhere where the pope said anything about anyone going to heaven, only that they should not be consider evil for not believing.


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the world is full of people that seem to think that just because they believe their sins are forgiven that they can go about doing whatever horrible things they want. Child molesting priests come to mind.
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Jesus clearly said, the only way to the Father(heaven) is through Him(Jesus). By accepting Christ as your savior.
You can do all the good deeds your little heart desires but that does not get you saved.
I will have to disagree with the pope on this one.
Jesus didn't clearly say shit. That fairytale book has been rewritten and modified to suit. :)
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