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Old May 16th, 2013, 06:54 AM   #61
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Wow !!! I know the Bradens and this is totally out of character !! Dead wrong about him.
Didnt you just loose a court case with them at the 86th district courthouse???

Also would like to add that posting a picture of his fathers home is a lawsuit in itself !! From what I understand you are repeatedly harrasing him via text as well as this websght !! Thats just borderline nuts dude .

I happen to know for a fact that you found the truck on craigs list and you haggeled with Micah for weeks on money and trading power tools or equipment,
and that the rear end was blown out of the truck at that time .

Micah took that REAR END out of a 1985Toyota and placed it in the 4 runners axle housing. Stock Gears and axles out of a stock truck . You agreed to this and took the truck with 529 geers in the front end and stock Toyota pick up gears in the rear . And now your trying to sue him for axle shafts when all you did was find his number on craigs list.
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Sir I have had enough . you no what you bought . You where shone old housing from a 85 that everything was taken from , this truck had six years on it before transfer total costom truck axle change oh what efi to what . cracked frame shone to you . miss in engine you also pointed out . miss matched gears cause you new the rear end had been blown ' it had 529 in front and stock 85 in rear . only thing craigslist had to do with this is a phone# this truck was a beet wheeler and you wanted it . stating and laughing you are a teacher in the sue and your students had a new project . whos the liar.? now although my son doesnt live here people want to shit in my lawn . witch all has been copied. and people where hangouts are if you are a teacher would you insight your students to cause harm? sir you wouldnt except reciept is this why

you are something else my lights r on to night



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You took someone to court over a few hundred bucks on axle shafts? Wow, you either don't value your time, or you were way butt hurt.

I mean if you're that concerned about it take a closer look at what you're buying.
Well it was a thousand bucks so to me that's worth it.
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But, you used to sell stuff to someone local who drove by it and wanted it. Now you have people on the internet coming to buy your shit that you'll never see again, so you embellish a little bit.
Embellish a little bit?
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Wow !!! I know the Bradens and this is totally out of character !! Dead wrong about him.
Didnt you just loose a court case with them at the 86th district courthouse???

Also would like to add that posting a picture of his fathers home is a lawsuit in itself !! From what I understand you are repeatedly harrasing him via text as well as this websght !! Thats just borderline nuts dude .

I happen to know for a fact that you found the truck on craigs list and you haggeled with Micah for weeks on money and trading power tools or equipment,
and that the rear end was blown out of the truck at that time .

Micah took that REAR END out of a 1985Toyota and placed it in the 4 runners axle housing. Stock Gears and axles out of a stock truck . You agreed to this and took the truck with 529 geers in the front end and stock Toyota pick up gears in the rear . And now your trying to sue him for axle shafts when all you did was find his number on craigs list.
I didn't care about the gears, I cared about the axles. Just like I didn't care about the rust. I knew it needed new gears. Had he been honest about the shafts, I would have passed for the price. But he wasn't honest. That's the bottom line.
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Thank you Sam Bernstein for that information . I am urging my friend to contact you. This has gotten out of hand .
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Our family law firm is located in Metro Detroit. But as a family law firm we take harrassment seriously and it seems that we have a case here. You know what they always say, buyer beware.
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Sir I have had enough . you no what you bought . You where shone old housing from a 85 that everything was taken from , this truck had six years on it before transfer total costom truck axle change oh what efi to what . cracked frame shone to you . miss in engine you also pointed out . miss matched gears cause you new the rear end had been blown ' it had 529 in front and stock 85 in rear . only thing craigslist had to do with this is a phone# this truck was a beet wheeler and you wanted it . stating and laughing you are a teacher in the sue and your students had a new project . whos the liar.? now although my son doesnt live here people want to shit in my lawn . witch all has been copied. and people where hangouts are if you are a teacher would you insight your students to cause harm? sir you wouldnt except reciept is this why

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Well it was a thousand bucks so to me that's worth it.
Wait, you paid $1000 MORE because you THOUGHT it had chromo shafts, or you paid $1,000 in total for the vehicle?

1. If you paid $1000 MORE than you would have because you THOUGHT it had cromo shafts you should have your fucking head examined and you should have known what the hell you were buying before you loaded it on a trailer, handed over cash, drove away...

2. If you paid $1000 for the whole truck, well then, you probably got what you paid for anyway.
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Sir I have had enough . you no what you bought . You where shone old housing from a 85 that everything was taken from , this truck had six years on it before transfer total costom truck axle change oh what efi to what . cracked frame shone to you . miss in engine you also pointed out . miss matched gears cause you new the rear end had been blown ' it had 529 in front and stock 85 in rear . only thing craigslist had to do with this is a phone# this truck was a beet wheeler and you wanted it . stating and laughing you are a teacher in the sue and your students had a new project . whos the liar.? now although my son doesnt live here people want to shit in my lawn . witch all has been copied. and people where hangouts are if you are a teacher would you insight your students to cause harm? sir you wouldnt except reciept is this why

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What you've just said... is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul
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Sir I have had enough . you no what you bought . You where shone old housing from a 85 that everything was taken from , this truck had six years on it before transfer total costom truck axle change oh what efi to what . cracked frame shone to you . miss in engine you also pointed out . miss matched gears cause you new the rear end had been blown ' it had 529 in front and stock 85 in rear . only thing craigslist had to do with this is a phone# this truck was a beet wheeler and you wanted it . stating and laughing you are a teacher in the sue and your students had a new project . whos the liar.? now although my son doesnt live here people want to shit in my lawn . witch all has been copied. and people where hangouts are if you are a teacher would you insight your students to cause harm? sir you wouldnt except reciept is this why

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I have no idea what you are even saying here. So i'll say this.

Did he say they were chomoly?

Yes

Are they chomoly?

No

He lied.

I assume you are the dad...so did you guarantee they were chomoly?

Yes

Are they chomoly?

No

You lied.

Did the judge say he lied?

Yes

Bottom line is this, he lied and I got screwed. Live and learn. I hope someone else does not get screwed by Micah Braden aka Micah Denzel-Braden. I wish I would have known before dealing with him.

As for the house thing, he posted a google map with the address on Craigslist.
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I have no idea what you are even saying here. So i'll say this.

Did he say they were chomoly?

Yes

Are they chomoly?

No

He lied.

I assume you are the dad...so did you guarantee they were chomoly?

Yes

Are they chomoly?

No

You lied.

Did the judge say he lied?

Yes

Bottom line is this, he lied and I got screwed. Live and learn. I hope someone else does not get screwed by Micah Braden aka Micah Denzel-Braden. I wish I would have known before dealing with him.

As for the house thing, he posted a google map with the address on Craigslist.
I'm just curious, did you verify that they were chromo shafts before you spent the money, loaded the vehicle, and drove it 2 hours+ home?
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I'm just curious, did you verify that they were chromo shafts before you spent the money, loaded the vehicle, and drove it 2 hours+ home?
I'm curious? did we just go in a big circle?
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I'm curious? did we just go in a big circle?
No we didnt. We still have unanswered questions from muddy whiner which he selectively refuses to answer.


I'm pretty sure muddy whiner didn't answer a couple of questions including.

Did he pay $1000 for the vehicle, or $1000 more because he thought it had chromo shafts.

Did he check to see that the shafts were chromo before he loaded the vehicle up on his trailer and took it home

Did he pay for the vehicle before he verified it had chromo shafts?


Pure speculation here, but I am speculating that he did not verify anything. He took their word (which he shouldn't have), he gave them money (without verifying), he loaded the vehicle on his trailer (because it doesn't sound road worthy), he drove home bragging to his friends how he just got a great deal on a running 4x4 toyota with chromo shafts for only $1,000, then he got home and realized he didn't get the deal he thought he got and now he's pissed.

He makes it sound like the chromo shafts were the deal maker/breaker. He makes it sound like the $1000 he spent on this vehicle was important to him.

So if the Chromo shafts and the $1000 meant that much to him, maybe he should have further verified what he was actually getting?

Maybe he could have asked for a receipt? Maybe he could have asked the owner if they minded if he pulled a shaft real quick to verify?

Again, it sounds like that was one of the most important parts to the purchase to him.

Would you buy a 231 with a 4-1 lo-range kit without running it through 2wd, 4-hi and 4-lo to verify or would you just toss it in the bed of your truck and go home?
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Sir I have had enough . you no what you bought . You where shone old housing from a 85 that everything was taken from , this truck had six years on it before transfer total costom truck axle change oh what efi to what . cracked frame shone to you . miss in engine you also pointed out . miss matched gears cause you new the rear end had been blown ' it had 529 in front and stock 85 in rear . only thing craigslist had to do with this is a phone# this truck was a beet wheeler and you wanted it . stating and laughing you are a teacher in the sue and your students had a new project . whos the liar.? now although my son doesnt live here people want to shit in my lawn . witch all has been copied. and people where hangouts are if you are a teacher would you insight your students to cause harm? sir you wouldnt except reciept is this why

you are something else my lights r on to night


Remind me to never drink beer with Micah at Big E's Grill and then go purchase things from him or from the Power sports place.
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I guess circle isn't the right word.
I meant back to the same question, where you think he should have disassembled the front axle in the driveway before purchasing, but I believe that is too extreme, because I was about to quote my same post about taking a person's word...

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I don't know the actual price difference, but travel time, gas, the cost to file, missed work/wasted vacation time or even if i am unemplyed wasted time away from my kids, the hassle, etc.

Not worth it.

You bought something, there's no reason you couldn't confirm what you bought before you left. Game over. Shut up quit whining.
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What happened to being able to take a person's word, especially if the person's parent is standing there backing up the claims,

I would not take tools to take apart an axle, or anything else close to that, just to verify there were custom/after market parts. I have been taken by people this way. No I didn't take them to court, but you know what, I wanted to, and would have if I could have. The more people get away with mis-representation, the more they do it.
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No we didnt. We still have unanswered questions from muddy whiner which he selectively refuses to answer.


I'm pretty sure muddy whiner didn't answer a couple of questions including.

Did he pay $1000 for the vehicle, or $1000 more because he thought it had chromo shafts.

Did he check to see that the shafts were chromo before he loaded the vehicle up on his trailer and took it home

Did he pay for the vehicle before he verified it had chromo shafts?


Pure speculation here, but I am speculating that he did not verify anything. He took their word (which he shouldn't have), he gave them money (without verifying), he loaded the vehicle on his trailer (because it doesn't sound road worthy), he drove home bragging to his friends how he just got a great deal on a running 4x4 toyota with chromo shafts for only $1,000, then he got home and realized he didn't get the deal he thought he got and now he's pissed.

He makes it sound like the chromo shafts were the deal maker/breaker. He makes it sound like the $1000 he spent on this vehicle was important to him.

So if the Chromo shafts and the $1000 meant that much to him, maybe he should have further verified what he was actually getting?

Maybe he could have asked for a receipt? Maybe he could have asked the owner if they minded if he pulled a shaft real quick to verify?

Again, it sounds like that was one of the most important parts to the purchase to him.

Would you buy a 231 with a 4-1 lo-range kit without running it through 2wd, 4-hi and 4-lo to verify or would you just toss it in the bed of your truck and go home?
I will agree 100% on your speculation, but I still believe if he was guaranteed they were chromo shafts, and they turned out not to be, I would be pissed too, and would like to see the person pay something back for the mis-rep of the parts truck.

as to the 4:1 comparison, I don't think it is a fair comparison, you could find out if it had a 4:1 without taking it all apart, how about a SBC with flat top pistons, would you expect to pull the heads to verify? I would not, but if I paid extra money for them, and had to tear into the motor for something and found they were not, I'd again be pissed, going to court over it woudl depend how much was at stake, and how back the person pissed me off when I talked with them about the mis-representation.
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I agree. Verification of things that are internal is at a seller's word. Engine guts are one. Is the water pump a high volume pump? A shift kit in a trans is another. What's the ratio of an Atlas transfer case if it is installed in the vehicle?

Yes, buyer beware. But if a person "swears" that it has a component that it didn't, using specific buzzwords like "chromoly shafts", he is still a liar. Should muddypaws have verified it? That's debateable. Should the seller have lied? No.
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