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Old May 14th, 2013, 09:40 AM   #21
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Isn't the truck more comfortable to ride in anyways? How many trips will it take to pay off the trailer at 28mpg instead of 22?
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Old May 14th, 2013, 09:41 AM   #22
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Isn't the truck more comfortable to ride in anyways? How many trips will it take to pay off the trailer at 28mpg instead of 22?
There is a nail here, and someone is hitting it on the head.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 10:36 AM   #23
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Isn't the truck more comfortable to ride in anyways? How many trips will it take to pay off the trailer at 28mpg instead of 22?
wow, if that's the difference, I wouldn't even give it a second thought.

if there was no truck, or a truck getting around 12, like mine...
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wow, if that's the difference, I wouldn't even give it a second thought.

if there was no truck, or a truck getting around 12, like mine...
My truck averages about 17 mpg sometimes a click higher.
Our focus is all over the board. typically about 35 mpg on long highway trips. Sometimes higher, sometimes lower.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 11:22 AM   #25
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For the savings I would stick with the truck for sure. It would suck ruining a vacation over $100 in fuel because the pos harbor freight trailer you bought self destructed.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 04:02 PM   #26
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I just put this one together last month
It is the one with 12 inch wheels instead of 8 inch
I use it to haul firewood and stuff around the yard
I have about $350 into the whole thing
For the money I don't think you can go wrong, but I am not using it on the road and have only had it a month, so what do I know.
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anyone ever use one of these little guys?

Are they stable at highway speeds? How well do they handle bumps (of course I want to jump it)?

http://www.harborfreight.com/automot...res-42708.html
I just noticed this one has a top speed of 45MPH,

I wonder if it self destructs if you go over 45?
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I just noticed this one has a top speed of 45MPH,

I wonder if it self destructs if you go over 45?
I didn't notice that, that squashes the plans even more.

As for the mileage debate. We have 10 road trips planned for this summer. At this point thats 10,000+ miles.

Truck - 15-19 mpg = 525-665 gallons of fuel.
Car - 30-35 mpg = 333 - 285 gallons of fuel.

that's a savings of somewhere around 190-380 gallons of fuel or $800-1500+ in fuel.

spending a few bucks on a trailer to do so seemed somewhat logical.

We can still take the car with out the trailer but it is not nearly as convenient as taking the truck or having a trailer to load our stuff on.
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I didn't notice that, that squashes the plans even more.

As for the mileage debate. We have 10 road trips planned for this summer. At this point thats 10,000+ miles.

Truck - 15-19 mpg = 525-665 gallons of fuel.
Car - 30-35 mpg = 333 - 285 gallons of fuel.

that's a savings of somewhere around 190-380 gallons of fuel or $800-1500+ in fuel.

spending a few bucks on a trailer to do so seemed somewhat logical.

We can still take the car with out the trailer but it is not nearly as convenient as taking the truck or having a trailer to load our stuff on.
Roof rack of some sort maybe?
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my friend bought the 4x8 version to use as one place snowmobile trailer.
it actually towed pretty good. the 5th season it broke in half from rust issues.
we repainted it every fall. the metal is thin and flimsy. bolt together trailers are no good.
if you welded it together, and never saw salt with it, it would do fine.
i have towed it "way over any 45mph limit" for hundreds of miles!
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If you don't care about your stuff buy the Barbour freight trail, if you do care about your stuff spend money on a quality trailer...so in your terms you think I should buy a huffy from Kmart to go downhill riding with you? The price is right, so it should work fine right? After all a bike is bike right?
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you think I should buy a huffy from Kmart to go downhill riding with you
i would pay to see that!
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If you don't care about your stuff buy the Barbour freight trail, if you do care about your stuff spend money on a quality trailer...so in your terms you think I should buy a huffy from Kmart to go downhill riding with you? The price is right, so it should work fine right? After all a bike is bike right?
Damn now thats some logic.
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Roof rack of some sort maybe?
If I put a roof rack on my focus I'd get the same mileage as I do in my truck

You're an engineer....aerodynamic drag is exponential, or compounding or something (i'm not an engineer)

Suffice it to say that roof racks + bikes = shitty mileage. I won't bore you with my mileage numbers from various vehicles.

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If you don't care about your stuff buy the Barbour freight trail, if you do care about your stuff spend money on a quality trailer...so in your terms you think I should buy a huffy from Kmart to go downhill riding with you? The price is right, so it should work fine right? After all a bike is bike right?
That's why I started this thread. If I was gonna load it up with a bunch of bikes I paid decent money for I wanted to know what kind of quality I was gonna get.

It's also why i've elected to just stick with what I have. Go find a home for some baby bunnies
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i would pay to see that!
I've seen it.....as much as I love a good shit show I wouldnt even let hancho do it.
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Why don't you just build your own trailer? I think you know enough people to weld one together.
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I would be interested to see how much the mpg would drop on the focus pulling a trailer, even if it was small enough to ride in the slip stream behind it.

I wonder if it would start dropping below 30, especially in hilly country.
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Why don't you just build your own trailer? I think you know enough people to weld one together.
By the time you buy an axle, wheels, tires, coupler, and lights you have probably spent as much as a new decent (not harborfreight) trailer costs. Once you buy steel, decking, paint, and factor your time any $$$ in fuel savings has been accounted for.

I had the idea to build one over the winter and then realized how cheap trailers are. After putting new tires, lights, deck, brakes, and building a ramp gate for my 16'er the money I saved vs buying a new one is not much. That reminds me I still need to buy a new tongue jack
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I would be interested to see how much the mpg would drop on the focus pulling a trailer, even if it was small enough to ride in the slip stream behind it.

I wonder if it would start dropping below 30, especially in hilly country.
I think if I was able to keep the bikes low enough and facing forward (side facing on a hit rack is a mileage killer for some reason) the mileage loss would be negligible, and I don't think the weight would be a huge issue in the hills, then again what's a focus rocking for torque 100-150ft lbs?

But, It's just going to come down to disassembling bikes and packing our asses into the focus like sardines. 2 people, 2 bikes, a cooler, and a few bags of clothes and that little car is fully loaded down pretty quick.

The fuel savings is worth it though, especially at venues where I am staying right at the resort and only have to take the bikes apart and put them back together once.
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