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Old May 13th, 2013, 09:51 AM   #81
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I heard the ambassador was supposed to be kidnapped and traded for some towel heads but the seals that were not supposed to be there put up a fight and messed up the plan our government had.
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Was all this "non existent" as well?

http://mashable.com/2012/09/13/youtube-protests-spread/
So you believe it wasn't a terrorist attack and it actually was a riot?
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Was all this "non existent" as well?

http://mashable.com/2012/09/13/youtube-protests-spread/
Does deforestation in Africa have any bearing on the wolf population in Canada?

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The eyewitnesses on the ground in Benghazi have already said that there was NO protest and the video was a non-event in Libya. The administration had all of that information already. They lied to us about it.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 10:18 AM   #84
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Does deforestation in Africa have any bearing on the wolf population in Canada?

No. It doesn't.

The eyewitnesses on the ground in Benghazi have already said that there was NO protest and the video was a non-event in Libya. The administration had all of that information already. They lied to us about it.
No, just making the point that the video in question did exist, and it did spark protests at embassies in various places around the world.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 10:20 AM   #85
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The issue of the video is pointless. What is more important to me is that there was possible help available and we didn't send in the troops.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 10:28 AM   #86
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The issue of the video is pointless. What is more important to me is that there was possible help available and we didn't send in the troops.
I agree. Even if in retrospect it looks like they may not have gotten there in time to help, I think they should have gotten additional forces en-route while they figured out what was actually happening.

The other issue that concerns me is that is seems that there were warnings that something could happen but they were ignored.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 10:29 AM   #87
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Tin foil hat time
I heard the ambassador was supposed to be kidnapped and traded for some towel heads but the seals that were not supposed to be there put up a fight and messed up the plan our government had.
Even if I was inclined to believe these types of things, I think they would have waited until after the election to pull something like that.
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I agree. Even if in retrospect it looks like they may not have gotten there in time to help, I think they should have gotten additional forces en-route while they figured out what was actually happening.

The other issue that concerns me is that is seems that there were warnings that something could happen but they were ignored.
The truly alarming part of it was that the stand down orders were given BEFORE the attack was over. That's the most damning part. They had no idea how long this attack was going to continue and if it would stay localized to Benghazi. That told me that they were either willing to sacrifice every American in Libya or they knew everything about the attack, it's objectives, who was doing it, etc.

Either way... Treason.
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The truly alarming part of it was that the stand down orders were given BEFORE the attack was over. That's the most damning part. They had no idea how long this attack was going to continue and if it would stay localized to Benghazi. That told me that they were either willing to sacrifice every American in Libya or they knew everything about the attack, it's objectives, who was doing it, etc.

Either way... Treason.
I don't even want to pretend to sound like I know the first thing about Military command and control structure. I would have thought that in the time of crisis, the president (any president) would hand the minute by minute decision making over to someone more knowledgeable on military capabilities and procedures, and who would be more free of political motivations.

Without knowing who decided what when and what they knew of the situation at the time I don't know what it tells me.
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No, just making the point that the video in question did exist, and it did spark protests at embassies in various places around the world.
There were no protests anywhere in the world over that video...all of it was complete lies, the fact you believe there were protests shows me you really drink up everything the government tells you
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there were no protests anywhere in the world over that video...all of it was complete lies, the fact you believe there were protests shows me you really drink up everything the government tells you
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Old May 13th, 2013, 12:39 PM   #93
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There were no protests anywhere in the world over that video...all of it was complete lies, the fact you believe there were protests shows me you really drink up everything the government tells you
bullshit.
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bullshit.
From what I understand that video was pulled before many people even got a chance to see it.
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From what I understand that video was pulled before many people even got a chance to see it.
If it was it was because of the protest. And I can easily believe that most of the people protesting never even saw it, but were told about it and told to go protest.
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From what I understand that video was pulled before many people even got a chance to see it.
When they mentioned the video I immediately went to YouTube to watch it. It had less then 1000 views. It was the only video posted named that.
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When they mentioned the video I immediately went to YouTube to watch it. It had less then 1000 views. It was the only video posted named that.
How long after you viewed it was it pulled?
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How long after you viewed it was it pulled?
Couldn't have been too long after. Maybe a couple of days if that. It was the cheapest made and stupidest pile of shit I ever watched and I'm no fan of Islam. It was just flat retarded.

There are PLENTY of anti-Islam videos, articles, etc all over the internet. If that pile of shit was what set them off they are even dumber than we thought.
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If it was it was because of the protest. And I can easily believe that most of the people protesting never even saw it, but were told about it and told to go protest.
Umm ya, protests are the only reason YouTube pulls videos.... How many times has somebody linked a somewhat offensive YouTube video on this site and before anybody had a chance to see it, it was pulled? Oh, I guess that was because they caused major worldwide protests and terrorist attacks....
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Couldn't have been too long after. Maybe a couple of days if that. It was the cheapest made and stupidest pile of shit I ever watched and I'm no fan of Islam. It was just flat retarded.

There are PLENTY of anti-Islam videos, articles, etc all over the internet. If that pile of shit was what set them off they are even dumber than we thought.
is this it? if so it's still there.

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