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Old May 13th, 2013, 06:12 AM   #21
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LOL so explain to me why i can drive my xj with no steering stabilizer and not have DW?

Stick to working on your bigdumbgmc
If that was the case, he must have had junk tires or bent steel wheels. If neither, then he was missing what was really bad.

I agree, stabilizer not needed if everything else is good.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 06:33 AM   #22
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first off i wasnt degrading anyone. i was simply stating a fact. it happened to me. everything was replaced (even your bent rim and bad tire theory). second off...obviously you are smarter than the manufacturer. they just simply put them on there for looks. serve no purpose...right?
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Old May 13th, 2013, 06:36 AM   #23
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first off i wasnt degrading anyone. i was simply stating a fact. it happened to me. everything was replaced (even your bent rim and bad tire theory). second off...obviously you are smarter than the manufacturer. they just simply put them on there for looks. serve no purpose...right?

They don't serve a purpose, with quality steering components you DO NOT need one.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 06:41 AM   #24
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LOL so explain to me why i can drive my xj with no steering stabilizer and not have DW?

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Old May 13th, 2013, 07:37 AM   #25
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first off i wasnt degrading anyone. i was simply stating a fact. it happened to me. everything was replaced (even your bent rim and bad tire theory). second off...obviously you are smarter than the manufacturer. they just simply put them on there for looks. serve no purpose...right?
They do serve a purpose, but they are not the cause of death wobble, they often help mask death wobble when something else is worn out, once the steering stabilizer is equally as worn out the death wobble will show up. Sometimes replacing the stabilizer will hide the problem, but as was mentioned if all other components are new and in good condition the vehicle should not death wobble with or without a steering stabilizer.
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first off i wasnt degrading anyone. i was simply stating a fact. it happened to me. everything was replaced (even your bent rim and bad tire theory). second off...obviously you are smarter than the manufacturer. they just simply put them on there for looks. serve no purpose...right?
Not thinking you were degrading anyone and I hope you don't take it that I was...

Manufacturers put the stabilizer on to cover the vehicle throughout the life of the vehicle when they know the wobbles may be possible with slightly worn components.

Depending on tire size (and type), the stock track bar not have enough rigidity to keep the wobbles at bay. On the XJ, sometimes the stock uni-body does not have enough rigidity.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 08:00 AM   #27
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Does anybody use the search function on this site? Literally once a week somebody asks this exact same question and the answer is always the same. Something is loose or warn in the front end.
That is outdated info, the new and up to date when the question is asked is most relevent.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 08:36 AM   #28
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false.

i had a cherokee and had the same problem. replaced EVERYTHING up front. still did it. replaced the stabilizer...solved the problem.
A steering stabilizer only masks a problem.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 11:23 AM   #30
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Something in the front end is loose or worn. Start there.

Ball joints.
Track bar
control arms
tie rods
wheel bearings
shocks
alignment
tires

Its one of those things. Usually a combination. And usually all take excessive wear while death wobbling. Just replace everything now, or everything piece by piece. Your choice.
I'd add steering gear to that list. I had one get sloppy and replacing it helped.
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3 easiest things to check.... and will solve most DW

1. have a buddy turn the steering wheel while your tires are on the ground.... if your track bar moves left/right near the mount on the frame... time to replace
2. make sure both front tires are balanced
3. check your wheel bearings for wear... check your tire for play in 13-3-6-9 o'clock positions.
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when is 13 o'clock? did we go military time?
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sorry typo 12..
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when is 13 o'clock? did we go military time?
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Old May 15th, 2013, 06:57 PM   #35
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if you have death wobble and don't see anything loose, everything might be the slightest bit loose, a bunch of little parts with a little slop adds up to alot of slop
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