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Old April 23rd, 2013, 05:52 PM   #21
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What the fukc is wrong with these retards

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The Times Shifts on ‘Illegal Immigrant,’ but Doesn’t Ban the Use

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As the debate over a new immigration bill preoccupies Washington, a quieter debate over the use of the term “illegal immigrant” has stirred up the country’s newsrooms.

This month, The Associated Press announced it would eliminate the use of “illegal immigrant” entirely. The news agency wrote, “Except in direct quotes essential to the story, use ‘illegal’ only to refer to an action, not a person: illegal immigration, but not illegal immigrant.”

On Tuesday, The New York Times updated its policies on how it uses the phrase “illegal immigrant” in its coverage. The newspaper did not go as far as The Associated Press, and it will continue to allow the phrase to be used for “someone who enters, lives in or works in the United States without proper legal authorization.” But it encourages reporters and editors to “consider alternatives when appropriate to explain the specific circumstances of the person in question, or to focus on actions.”

Philip B. Corbett, the associate managing editor for standards, who oversees The Times’s style manual, made the announcement on Tuesday shortly after a group staged a protest in front of The New York Times headquarters and delivered more than 70,000 signatures to Jill Abramson, the executive editor of The Times, asking her to end the use of the phrase.

Mr. Corbett said in a statement that editors had spent months deliberating the updated style change. He said he shared these changes “with key reporters and editors over the last couple of weeks.” He said he recognized how sensitive this issue is for readers.

This nuanced approach to the term “illegal immigrant” was far from what the protesters who appeared outside of the Eighth Avenue entrance to The Times building had sought. Four protesters held signs that read “No Human Being is ‘Illegal’ Drop the I-Word.”

Fernando Chavez, son of the Mexican-American activist Cesar Chavez, flew in from Northern California for the protest to represent the views of his mother, Helen Fabela Chavez.

He said the widespread use of “illegal immigrant” represented one of the few times his mother had “displayed an opinion” about an issue. “It dehumanizes the individual and it’s counterproductive,” he said of the phrase.

Among the protesters was Jose Antonio Vargas, a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter who emphasized that he wanted Tuesday’s protest to remain civil. He revealed that he was living undocumented in the United States in an article that ran in The New York Times Magazine in June 2011 after his former employer, The Washington Post, decided not to run the story. Since then, he has spoken publicly about being undocumented. He is producing a documentary on the topic.

“I have a lot of respect for The New York Times,” Mr. Vargas said. “The New York Times published my essay after that Washington Post rejected it.” But he said he felt that The Times needed to make some changes. “The New York Times needs to get with the times.”

Last fall, when Mr. Vargas spoke at a San Francisco conference held by the Online News Association, he started to challenge the use of the term illegal immigrant in the news media. Shortly afterward, he also exchanged e-mails with Margaret Sullivan, The Times’s public editor, about the phrase. She wrote in an Oct. 2, 2012 article, “I see no advantage for Times readers in a move away from the paper’s use of the phrase ‘illegal immigrant.’ ”

Since then, discussions have circulated throughout the news media about the use of the phrase. Julia Preston, The Times’s immigration reporter, said in a blog post written by Ms. Sullivan in September that the paper needed “a little more flexibility.” But she said “we should use the term at times — it is accurate.”

The changes announced by Mr. Corbett to the stylebook suggested caution when looking for alternatives to “illegal immigrant.”

" ‘Unauthorized’ is also an acceptable description, though it has a bureaucratic tone,” Mr. Corbett said. " ‘Undocumented’ is the term preferred by many immigrants and their advocates, but it has a flavor of euphemism and should be approached with caution outside quotations.” The stylebook also calls for special care to be taken with those who have a complicated or shifting status, like those brought to the United States as children.

“Advocates on one side of this political debate have called on news organizations to use only the terms they prefer,” Mr. Corbett said. “But we have to make those decisions for journalistic reasons alone, based on what we think best informs our readers on this important topic.” He added: “It’s not our job to take sides.”

Some of the protesters outside The New York Times represented people with complicated immigration statuses themselves. Mikhel A. Crichlow, the 27-year-old co-chairman of the International Youth Association, said he appeared on Tuesday because he was undocumented and could not work in the field he trained in, which is architecture. Mr. Crichlow said he moved to New York City 12 years ago when the city’s Department of Education recruited his mother from Trinidad and Tobago to work as a schoolteacher. While Mr. Crichlow’s mother is in the country legally and about to qualify for her green card, Mr. Crichlow has become too old to remain here legally.

“The ‘illegal’ word conjures up the wrong associations for people,” Mr. Crichlow said. “I’m not authorized to work because of my status.”

Mr. Vargas said he had mixed emotions about The New York Times’s updated policy.

“The New York Times can’t have it both ways,” he said. “But at the end of the day, the bottom line is I am for reporters, including reporters at The New York Times, to be as descriptive and contextual as possible.”
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 06:57 PM   #22
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Fine, instead of illegal immigrants, we can call them criminal invaders. More pc?
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Why do i feel like we're in a handbasket, and where the fukc are we going?
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Is "Invasive Species" still valid?
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So YOU'RE the other guy that watched that show...

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Old April 30th, 2013, 06:39 PM   #27
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And another one!

http://news.yahoo.com/lower-tuition-...152911238.html

Lower tuition for immigrants becomes law in Colo.
Bill granting in-state tuition for students illegally in the US signed into law in Colo.

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DENVER (AP) -- Immigrant students will pay significantly less in tuition at Colorado colleges under legislation signed by Gov. John Hickenlooper on Monday.
Hundreds cheered as the Democratic governor ratified legislation that was first proposed a decade ago but regularly rejected under less favorable circumstances for people in the U.S. illegally.
"Holy smokes, are you guys fired up?" he asked the loud, spirited crowd at the Metropolitan State University of Denver. "Yeah, I thought so."
Colorado becomes the fourteenth state to allow immigrants who graduate from state high schools to attend colleges at the tuition rate other in-state students pay, rather than a higher rate paid by out-of-state students.
This month, a similar proposal was signed into law in Oregon. Texas was the first pass such a measure in June 2001.
Among those in attendance at the signing ceremony was Val Vigil, a former lawmaker who first introduced the bill in 2003 when only a few states had passed it. At the time, only two people signed up to testify in favor of the bill in committee, he recalled, and more than 20 people showed up to oppose it.
When the plan was discussed in 2008, immigrant students who signed up to testify in favor had their names turned over to federal immigration authorities by opponents of the bill.
When the bill was heard in the House Education Committee in February, no opponents signed up to testify.
"It took 10 years of coalition building," Vigil said.
The new law grants in-state tuition for Colorado high school graduates regardless of their immigration status. To qualify, students must also sign an affidavit saying they are seeking, or will seek, legal status in the U.S.
The out-of-state rate immigrants in Colorado had been required to pay is sometimes more than three times higher than the in-state rate.
"Every kid matters," Hickenlooper said. "We need every child that we can get to be as educated as they are capable."
Other states that allow in-state tuition for immigrants in the country illegally include California, Utah and Connecticut.
Oscar Juarez, originally from Mexico City, has attended Metro State for two semesters. The 21-year-old moved to Colorado from Arizona after lawmakers there passed a strict immigration enforcement law a few years ago.
"And now having to pay less, it's a lot easier and a lot less stress for myself and my parents as well," he said.
Juarez said he's seen the opinions of the public and Colorado lawmakers change in recent years. He said he has seen "the hatred from people" decline.
People outside of the immigrant community are "actually comprehending on our problems" and realizing that immigrants such as himself are "just here to have a successful life and give to this country."
Democrats unanimously supported the bill and a handful of Republicans joined them. In years past there has been opposition from both sides.
The majority of Republican lawmakers still opposed the measure but said during debates they sympathized with immigrant students.
Republicans argued that the overall immigration system is flawed and needs to change. They said that because the students are not in the country legally they will be unable to find work after college and that the tuition change would only give them false hope.
Supporters repeatedly argued that wasn't the case.
"Today we're here to tell you," said state Sen. Mike Johnston, one of the sponsors of the bill, "in Colorado that the doors are open and the dream is alive."
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Anybody who wants to see where this will end, should just drive to Toronto.


When we go there on business, we play a game called 'Spot the Canadian'

It's very challenging.
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So she was 17 when she traveled to China and her parents didn't make sure she had the proper shots but it's the school's fault?
Why should her parents have to do anything? It's a school sponsored trip!!!!
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Why should her parents have to do anything? It's a school sponsored trip!!!!
Since when is a school responsible for a students Health care?
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Since when is a school responsible for a students Health care?
I suppose you haven't been in school for a while; the school is responsible for everything nowadays!!!

At least that's what the parent consensus was every time I went to parent teacher conferences for my little sister. You'd be surprised what parents think their responsibilities don't include
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Really? Expelled, arrested and two felony accounts?
"Kiera Wilmot, a student at Bartow High School, is facing two felony charges including making or attempting to make a destructive device after she mixed toilet bowl cleaner and pieces of aluminum foil in a tiny water bottle."
"The experiment was conducted in a school yard away from the building and away from students. No one was injured in the incident"
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes...t-in-jail.html
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I can't even make this shit up if I tried

http://news.yahoo.com/allow-non-citi...205400099.html

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Advocates say non-citizens pay the same taxes as citizens, and have the same concerns about education, crime, and more
On Thursday, the New York City Council started debating a proposal that would give non-citizens the right to vote in municipal elections. If passed, all legal residents of New York City, regardless of citizenship, would be able to vote as long as they had lived in the city for at least six months and passed all the other standard voting requirements.
"This is extremely important, because it's based on the founding principle of this country and that was, 'No Taxation Without Representation,'" councilman Daniel Dromm, who co-authored the bill, told Talking Points Memo. "All of the people who would be included in this and would be allowed to vote are paying taxes, they've contributed to society."
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This is not just a pipe-dream either. Allan Wernick of the New York Daily News reports that the City Council has a veto-proof majority that supports the proposal. Mayor Michael Bloomberg has officially opposed the measure, telling TPM through his spokesperson that "you should have to go through the process of becoming a citizen and declaring allegiance to this country before being given that right."
Bloomberg also claims that it violates the state constitution. Some expert groups, like the New York County Bar Association and Brennan Center for Justice, say that as a charter city, New York can pass the bill without permission from the state, according to the Daily News.
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Another reason Bloomberg might oppose the bill? As Max Rivlin-Nadlerthis notes in Gothamist, "It would just drastically shift New York City's demographics towards a more progressive electorate." According to the latest Census data, more than 3 million New Yorkers are foreign-born, totaling nearly a third of the city's population (it should be noted that the Census doesn't include information on whether the foreign-born are U.S. citizens or foreign nationals.)
Wernick points out that non-citizens in New York City were previously allowed to vote in local school board elections before the city eliminated school boards. The reasoning behind that decision that even non-citizen parents should have a say in how their children are educated should apply to this larger bill, writes Wernick: "Now, permanent residents, who pay the same taxes as U.S. citizens, seek the same public safety, and serve and die for our country, want a say in electing those who run our city."
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What happens in New York City could affect campaigns to allow non-citizen voting in other cities like Washington, D.C., San Francisco, and Portland, Maine. Several weeks ago, the California Assembly passed a bill allowing non-citizens to serve on juries. Its sponsor, assemblyman Bob Wieckowski, said it would help immigrants integrate into American society and make sure there were enough eligible people to serve on juries, according to The Los Angeles Times.
If approved, New York City's bill to expand voting rights to non-citizens could go into effect as early as November.
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