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Old April 25th, 2013, 09:07 PM   #21
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I used rewire in mine and poured it 7 1/2" thick and 9-10 thick in the door ways and hoist area.
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If your not going to do the floor now I would at least have the rat walls poured as a foundation. Digging them with an existing structure brings the suck.
entire barn will have rat walls

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Does this mean the canoe will find a new home soon...
actually yes, I can come get it as soon as a steal a pickup truck (which I also need to use to pick up a motor from the old whiterhino.)
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Old April 25th, 2013, 09:29 PM   #22
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Old April 25th, 2013, 10:27 PM   #23
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Don't know if this is pertinent, but when we built our 30x40s, they poured the floors last.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 10:37 PM   #24
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Old April 26th, 2013, 07:23 AM   #26
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Its going to be dusty as all get out in there
I think it will mostly be storage for the toter - can't get more dusty than 98% of the TREC and KOH races. lol.
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Old April 26th, 2013, 07:35 AM   #27
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I recommend a concrete rat wall footer regardless.

Does this mean the canoe will find a new home soon...
x2, just get it out of the way now. You basically split the concrete expense between now and the future.

If you use a product like 21AA, wet and compact it will turn ultra hard and shouldn't dust that much.
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Old April 26th, 2013, 08:13 AM   #28
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asphalt millings also work very well and dont have the dust like 21aa. when i payed for some last time it was $10 a yard delivered. just make sure its the good fine stuff with out big chunks......................we use it at my work all the time for base under concrete and for alleys that were gravel = no dust for the most part.
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If you are building a pole barn, you can do a wood rat wall. We have been doing them for the past 5 years, its cheaper than concrete.
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Old April 26th, 2013, 11:24 AM   #30
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If you are building a pole barn, you can do a wood rat wall. We have been doing them for the past 5 years, its cheaper than concrete.
Thats how I thought all polebarns were built? I have an addition on my barn with crushed ashphalt floor. While not as nice as cement, it works fine. I poured cement sills where the garage doors are so they could seal.
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Thats how I thought all polebarns were built? I have an addition on my barn with crushed ashphalt floor. While not as nice as cement, it works fine. I poured cement sills where the garage doors are so they could seal.
Depends on the municipality, I think. Mine required a 24" concrete ratwall, on the barn I just built.

I guess I would price out both options before making the final decision. If you have to do a rat wall anyway, and pay for fill, then maybe its not that much more for concrete floor.
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Depends on the municipality, I think. Mine required a 24" concrete ratwall, on the barn I just built.

I guess I would price out both options before making the final decision. If you have to do a rat wall anyway, and pay for fill, then maybe its not that much more for concrete floor.
If they allow wood basements in the area, they really can't say no to a wood rat wall
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can't do wood. has to be crete.
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