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Old April 24th, 2013, 06:33 PM   #10121
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I'm glad my hate the world phase is over with. Life is much better when you stop fighting everything.

I hit that phase at about 29. It is peaceful and almost nothing keeps me angry. Don't get me wrong I know there is a time and place as needed to unleash all out destruction
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Old April 24th, 2013, 06:36 PM   #10122
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I hit that phase at about 29. It is peaceful and almost nothing keeps me angry. Don't get me wrong I know there is a time and place as needed to unleash all out destruction
Agreed that there is a time and a place but all the time and every place is too exhausting to keep up with. Just not worth it.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 06:37 PM   #10123
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I hit that phase at about 29. It is peaceful and almost nothing keeps me angry. Don't get me wrong I know there is a time and place as needed to unleash all out destruction
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Old April 24th, 2013, 06:41 PM   #10124
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Old April 24th, 2013, 06:52 PM   #10125
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If your employer makes you sign a handbook saying you won't possess a firearm while under employment, does signing mean that you voluntarily forfit your 2nd amendment rights?
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Old April 24th, 2013, 06:54 PM   #10126
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If your employer makes you sign a handbook saying you won't possess a firearm while under employment, does signing mean that you voluntarily forfit your 2nd amendment rights?
Only on company time/grounds?
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Old April 24th, 2013, 07:02 PM   #10127
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Only on company time/grounds?
That's not how it reads, although I believe that's how it was intended. HR says it's not going to be changed...
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Old April 24th, 2013, 07:06 PM   #10128
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That's not how it reads, although I believe that's how it was intended. HR says it's not going to be changed...
Legally they can't dictate whether an employee owns firearms. They can say that you can't have them while working or on company property but no company on American soil can strip any American citizen of their rights guaranteed by the Constitution.
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So if the contract is signed and then you are fired because of owning and operating firearms on free time off company property, then you have legal grounds to sue for violation of constitutional rights? GL4x4 legal advice
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So if the contract is signed and then you are fired because of owning and operating firearms on free time off company property, then you have legal grounds to sue for violation of constitutional rights? GL4x4 legal advice
Consult a lawyer... but I would sue the living fukc out of them and start a media campaign that would wreck their souls.
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There may be a precedence in some of the 'no smoking' rules employers have used in the past...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1709915.html
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Old April 24th, 2013, 07:17 PM   #10133
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The Constitution doesn't say anything about smoking.

It does mention the right to bear arms though.
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Old April 24th, 2013, 07:22 PM   #10134
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The Constitution doesn't say anything about smoking.

It does mention the right to bear arms though.
They are not taking away your right to bear arms.

They are taking away the privilege of their employment if you bear arms.
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Consult a lawyer... but I would sue the living fukc out of them and start a media campaign that would wreck their souls.
I asked my wife who is a lawyer. She's says it is unequivocally a constitutional violation, and a void of said contract.
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I asked my wife who is a lawyer. She's says it is unequivocally a constitutional violation, and a void of said contract.
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If it's not limited to company grounds and extends to private life/property then, yes. Yes it does.

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You might want to ask the question in the legal beagle section of MGO.
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That's not how it reads, although I believe that's how it was intended. HR says it's not going to be changed...
Don't assume their intentions. If it's that vague, that means they can interpret it in any way they choose if the need (in their eyes) calls for it.

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What, exactly, does the manual say?
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