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Old February 11th, 2013, 06:31 PM   #561
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Old February 11th, 2013, 06:35 PM   #562
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The guys over at Rocksolid performance have had a lot of good to say about grizzly lockers. They have sold a ton of them. I am debating on using them or detroits in the buggy. They have one of the grizzly lockers sitting on their counter that you can work by hand. It seems like a good design.
I could be wrong, but I remember hearing that the Grizzly lockers are essentially ARB's old design. I heard it from a pretty knowledgeable guy who built offroad rigs for a living, but never did anything to confirm it myself.


I can see both sides of the opinions on ARB and other air lockers. They are certainly good lockers and work well, but the added complexity gives more potential failure modes. That's how it goes with everything, that's why the KISS theory is so popular. I've never seen an actual ARB locker itself fail, but I did see a compressor issue or two and LOTS of issues due to poor airline routing. Do it right and maintain it well and you'll probably be ok.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 06:38 PM   #563
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I could be wrong, but I remember hearing that the Grizzly lockers are essentially ARB's old design. I heard it from a pretty knowledgeable guy who built offroad rigs for a living, but never did anything to confirm it myself.


I can see both sides of the opinions on ARB and other air lockers. They are certainly good lockers and work well, but the added complexity gives more potential failure modes. That's how it goes with everything, that's why the KISS theory is so popular. I've never seen an actual ARB locker itself fail, but I did see a compressor issue or two and LOTS of issues due to poor airline routing. Do it right and maintain it well and you'll probably be ok.
No, a grizzly is similar to a Detroit.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 07:16 PM   #564
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The guy from Hi-9 told me that when Yukon was designing the Grizzly they contacted Hi-9 and asked them what they didn't like about the Detroit and made some design changes because of it. In addition, he tells me that Grizzly is much better about tech support and replacement parts.

If I do an ARB, I may go with a Co2 air supply rather than a compressor. I've talked with guys who have run off of their Co2 tank and have used paintball canisters as backup. On the other hand, I like the idea of the Grizzly.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 07:30 PM   #565
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I run my Zip Locker off a Nitrogen tank and it works fine.

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Old February 11th, 2013, 09:42 PM   #566
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At -4F will the CO2 tank have enough oomph to engage or disengage an air locker?

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Old February 11th, 2013, 10:02 PM   #567
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Grizzly is a great choice. no lines to mess up or break. we even have it in our 750 Hp street JK. Zip locker would be my next choice if i wanted a selectable locker. I have Grizzly's and have broken 6 or 10 stock shafts without a locker failure. yukon has a great warranty too. Dale can hook you up.
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Old February 12th, 2013, 06:48 AM   #568
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Whats a Zip Locker? I had ARBs for a while and never had a problem. I won KOH with them too. Either way a selectable locker is what I really meant. Bill did ARBs make you puke or too much Liquor? I have only seen one of the two make you puker before.

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Old February 13th, 2013, 04:38 PM   #569
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ARBs were good enough for Jesse Haines.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 03:26 PM   #570
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Jeep is now tucked away in storage until ready for the body swap. Donor jeep is home. The tub is super clean.


Teardown has begun. Hoping to have the tub pulled this weekend. The floor has surface rust under the front floor mats and there is one spot under the tailgate that needs repair. Then it gets durabak liner in the interior.

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Old March 19th, 2013, 04:33 PM   #571
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Jeep is now tucked away in storage until ready for the body swap.
Let me know when you are getting this out of storage, I have 3 out of 4 krawlers changed over onto my rims:D

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Old March 19th, 2013, 04:33 PM   #572
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ARBs were good enough for Jesse Haines.
oh really how are they holding up for him
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Jeep is now tucked away in storage until ready for the body swap. Donor jeep is home. The tub is super clean.


Teardown has begun. Hoping to have the tub pulled this weekend. The floor has surface rust under the front floor mats and there is one spot under the tailgate that needs repair. Then it gets durabak liner in the interior.

Awww, aren't they cute when they're little.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 04:51 PM   #574
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good luck with the swap. and hurry up would ya?!
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Old March 19th, 2013, 05:12 PM   #577
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You should coat the bottom of the tub with chassis saver or bed liner.

And this.

http://www.cmperformancemachine.com/...FRAME-KIT.html

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Old March 19th, 2013, 05:56 PM   #578
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You should coat the bottom of the tub with chassis saver or bed liner.
chassis saver is some thick stuff. It held up great on the race wagoneer.

Nice to see some forward progress.
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Old March 19th, 2013, 07:16 PM   #579
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Let me know when you are getting this out of storage, I have 3 out of 4 krawlers changed over onto my rims:D

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No problem. Just make sure my new set of 40" Creepy Crawlers are installed when I pick it up.

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Awww, aren't they cute when they're little.
Yeah. It seems about the same size as my Rhino.

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good luck with the swap. and hurry up would ya?!
It would be faster with help.

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You should coat the bottom of the tub with chassis saver or bed liner.

And this.

http://www.cmperformancemachine.com/...FRAME-KIT.html
Won't be doing anything on the underbody. Just the interior. I'll be doing some frame repairs on the front but not a complete swap out.

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chassis saver is some thick stuff. It held up great on the race wagoneer.

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Old April 15th, 2013, 01:25 PM   #580
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Rumor has it that your new build with be multi-function. Street/ice cream truck. Is this true?

I heard it from one of those SMRC guys.
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