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Old April 11th, 2013, 03:28 PM   #41
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I had one truck that almost made me shit my pants. It was a 12 F250 that was tuned up. After throwing 10K at it for a lift, wheels/tires and bumpers with a winch up front, that thing would flat out move. It pulled harder than any others I've had in and would keep going.

I have driven many and they all do good, but I also don't live with them. That Ford though, holy cow!
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Old April 11th, 2013, 03:46 PM   #42
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Old April 11th, 2013, 05:36 PM   #44
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I have a 6.0 gasser in my truck. Im always being given shit about how much it sucks compared to a Cummins/PowerStroke/Duramax and How I cant tow anything.
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Old April 11th, 2013, 05:47 PM   #45
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a 6.0 gasser will tow just as much as a cummins, powerstroke or a durasmack will it will just get really shitty gas mileage while doing it.
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Old April 12th, 2013, 08:55 AM   #46
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I like there club motto on the top of the page "web site for all you coal rolling hilbillys to talk about diesels and hillbilly stuff".
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Old April 12th, 2013, 09:20 AM   #47
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I have a 6.0 gasser in my truck. Im always being given shit about how much it sucks compared to a Cummins/PowerStroke/Duramax and How I cant tow anything.
I just stepped down from a mildly modded 5.9 Cummins(probably about 400hp/800lb-ft at the crank) to a 6.0 gasser about 2 months ago. While there's a night and day difference in torque, the 6.0L is still a great motor. I like the new truck and it did fine towing the 1 time I've hooked a trailer to it so far. Diesel owners just need to talk shit to make them feel better about all the extra money they're paying for the truck and maintenance. They're good trucks for sure, but the diesel superiority complex has gotten way outta hand. They're superior for towing, that's a given, but they're not the only vehicles capable of it

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a 6.0 gasser will tow just as much as a cummins, powerstroke or a durasmack will it will just get really shitty gas mileage while doing it.
"just as much" is pushing it, but it'll tow most reasonable loads just fine.
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Old April 12th, 2013, 09:37 AM   #48
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the op should hardcore :trollface: the cummin's guy by selling the duramax and buying a gasser toyota
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Old April 12th, 2013, 10:34 AM   #49
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And then put stacks on it.
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Old April 12th, 2013, 10:42 AM   #50
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I saw a guy last week on Walton in a lifted black dodge cummins (looked retarded) with a huge exhaust or tip, couldn't really tell. At every stop light he had to creep up on the car in front of him and "roll coal". As soon as he seen me in my truck he was thinking OH MAN I GOTTA LET HIM KNOW I HAVE A DIESEL!

On that note, I just bought my truck a few weeks ago. I was driving through Macon and it was getting dark. A guy in a newer GMC lifted diesel with an exhaust was behind me and then pulled up next to me. Again, another diesel douche noticed I had a diesel truck and had to gun it at the light to show off his loud exhaust and gay truck.
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Old April 12th, 2013, 10:54 AM   #51
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All my buddies have cranked up dmax's. I have a '99 F350 for towing, and when they blow me shit. I just remind them that I'm the only f'n one who uses their truck to actually do WORK!

Chris in this area, there are ALOT more Duramax fans/drivers than Cummins...

The Arctic Cat/flatbiller/D&D analogy is amusing. I grew up a half mile from D&D in NY, ride Cat and they're my cousins. I'll have to see if they have any flat bills in stock next time I'm home...
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Old April 12th, 2013, 10:55 AM   #52
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I pulled my TJ with 1700lbs of steel stock split between the trailer and bed of my truck on a steel decked car hauler from GR to Petoskey with my 187K+ mile 2005 GMC 1500 5.3L. I wasn't the fastest thing out there but I was able to do 65 mph highway with no difficulty. I got 9.7mpg on the trip which surprised the hell out of me. I see no need for a diesel for what I use my truck for. I used to think I needed a 6.0, turns out the 5.3 is fine. Big trucks are dumb.
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I pulled my TJ with 1700lbs of steel stock split between the trailer and bed of my truck on a steel decked car hauler from GR to Petoskey with my 187K+ mile 2005 GMC 1500 5.3L. I wasn't the fastest thing out there but I was able to do 65 mph highway with no difficulty. I got 9.7mpg on the trip which surprised the hell out of me. I see no need for a diesel for what I use my truck for. I used to think I needed a 6.0, turns out the 5.3 is fine. Big trucks are dumb.
Yep the newer trucks will handle way more than most people give them credit for. When I was downsizing from my diesel I went back and forth in my head a dozen times between 1/2 and 3/4 ton. I wanted the 3/4 ton for the stronger trans and heavier duty suspension and axles, but I didn't NEED it. I found the right deal so ended up with 3/4 ton, but a 1/2 ton would still handle the vast majority of what I need a truck for. I'm sure the same goes for 75% of the people with diesels too.
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I towed my son's 98 Buick from Newport to Eastpointe with my 300 CID six/5speed F150 with a weak clutch slave cylinder, no problem.


Big fukkin deal.


I get a laugh of of guys who spend $60k or more on a diesel 1 ton truck and then won't even put a sheet of plywood in the bed for fear of scratching it.
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Old April 12th, 2013, 11:23 AM   #55
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I had a half ton before this truck and I really liked it. Wouldnt have mind buying another one that was newer.

I bought a 3/4 ton because I really wanted a crew cab and I NEED at least a 6.5' box so my only options were a heavy half which are overpriced or a 3/4.

I went with Diesel because I could afford it and I really enjoy the power. Do I need a diesel? Nope, do I like it? Yep!

I have towed a lot more than most of the kids I know that are diesel douches.
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Old April 12th, 2013, 11:35 AM   #56
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My new Ecoboost does just fine pulling my 2500# trailer with a YJ that weighs around 5000#. This little engine is amazing very flat torque curve and has no problem running 70mph while towing. It is averaging 11.3 mpg while doing so also over a total distance of ~ 2500 miles towing. I even had to load the 2001 Powerstroke up on that trailer once when it burst a brake line and tow it home, the little engine didn't hardly know it was there. and last summer I was on vacation and got 23.7 mpg with it on the highway (unloaded of course) . I filled topped off the tank in Houghton, Mi. in the U.P. and drove all the way home in Kazoo County without having to get fuel again and the display still showed 223 miles to empty. Mine has the 36 gallon tank I love it .
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Old April 12th, 2013, 11:39 AM   #57
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I have a 3/4 ton Duramax LBZ crew cab. The main reason I bought it was to tow my 30' enclosed snowmobile trailer out to Wyoming to snowmobile. We drive straight through so the truck is running for like 18-20 hours straight. I just thought a diesel is better suited for that kind of towing. Will a gasser do it. Yep. Will a 1/2 ton do it. Yep and I have done it with a 1/2 ton.

With that said If I was buying a truck just to drive back and forth to work and an occassional trip towing to the U.P. I would get a 1/2 ton gasser for economic reasons. I can buy gas cheaper than I can diesel. Our 09 1/2 ton suburban gets 21 MPG on highway trips and 16 or better in town. IN the long run cheaper to drive a 1/2 fuel wise and they cost less.

I love my duramax but I new 1/2 ton gasser is a nice ride as well.
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Old April 12th, 2013, 01:06 PM   #58
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I bought my 03 Crew Cab Short bed super duty F350 Single rear wheel last July. Had 80 sumthin thousand miles on it. Came with a 7.3 in it and I love it. I don't tow a lot with it right now, but whenever I do, I'm really glad I bought it. I plan on keeping it and maintaining it for a long time and I know in the future I will be towing a lot more with it. It feels a lot safer towing with it than my old Z-71.

In a year, the only thing I have had to replace has been a ball joint and a brake line. I ended up preventatively replacing all 4 balljoints, steering u joints and new seals on the frontend when I did that bad ball joint.

This thing has been great. Only shitty thing is the typical rust that I've got goin on over the real wheelwells.



My point I want to make though is this....The week I bought it, I brought it home and had a buddy with a cummins stop by when I was detailing it. Very first thing he says to me. "Oh, you got the 7.3? It's gotta be an 02. Everybody knows they didnt make the 7.3 in 2003."

After I reassured him that it was an 03, and not to believe everything they put in the magazines, he did some quick homework on his notsosmartphone.....his next argument he worked in on was that "OH YOU HAVE POWDERCOATED RODS! THEY WON'T LAST! YOU CAN'T THROW MORE THAN 400 HORSE AT THEM!"

AGain, I reassured him that I was keeping it stock for a long time. A very long time. He just blank stared at me and asked me why I would want to keep it stock. I just stopped talking to him for the rest of the day about it because he just reinforced what everyone on here is saying about Cummins owners. Oh, and his truck.......sitting up 6 inches on rockstars with toyo MTs. Won't touch mud with it. SMH. FUckin bro's.
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powdered metal, not powder coated... FYI

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