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Old April 10th, 2013, 07:55 PM   #41
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Looks like they're taking people's guns as well:

http://www.examiner.com/article/stat...-from-citizens

The state of New York is allegedly confiscating firearms from people for mental health purposes, Ammoland.com reported on Monday.

According to Ammoland, the state is sending letters to users of SSRI antidepressants and who have experience with mental health demanding that the recipient surrender their handguns and identification that allows them to legally own firearms in the state, even if the person has no known criminal record or has not expressed any threat to commit violence.

“Those folks having their weapons and FID (firearm ID) cards confiscated have been discovered to have been prescribed multiple different types of psychotropic drugs, such as those for Depression or Anxiety. These are known as SSRI (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) class drugs and have the potential to cause serious and adverse side effects,” Ammoland reports.

The writer at Ammoland claims to have spoken with an attorney in New York, James Tresmond, who confirms that firearms are being confiscated in Erie County.

“It seems these supposedly confidential records are then compared against a list of known NY pistol license holders and letters are sent out demanding their Pistol Owner ID Cards be surrendered, as well as any firearms and accessories,” said Tresmond.

The state of New York has instituted some of the strictest gun control in the country following the Sandy Hook shooting in December. The state has implemented a law called the Secure Ammunition and Firearms (SAFE) Act, which outlaws magazines that hold more than seven rounds, requires gun owners to re-register their information every five years and requires semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines be registered with the state police, among other things.

Last month, Benjamin Wassell of Silver Creek was arrested for allegedly trying to sell firearms that were made illegal by the SAFE Act, including two semiautomatic rifles and more than 300 rounds of ammunition, according to the Associated Press. Wassell was alleged to have tried to sell the weapons to an undercover police officer.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 08:27 PM   #42
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I am sure if someone checked, that there are a lot of police officers in this state that are taking anti-anxiety meds. Certainly, there are many who suffer from PTSD. Before the NY State Police checks the medical records for the public, they should check their own people. If being on anti-anxiety meds makes people too dangerous to own a firearm, then they will have to disarm their own.




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Old April 10th, 2013, 08:29 PM   #43
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So the way I'm reading these laws (http://www.nysenate.gov/files/pdfs/N...Fact-Sheet.pdf, http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/21cfr/21usc/802.htm), they should only be taking guns from people who are illegally using , or addicted to these drugs, not everyone who has ever used them.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 08:39 PM   #44
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Baby steps. A little at a time. Reach a little deeper each time, hoping no one notices. Diminish the 2nd Amendment first, then the 1st, then the 4th...
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Old April 10th, 2013, 08:53 PM   #45
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My God! I have a scrip for omeperazole! How long before I have to give up my guns because of acid reflux?
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The slippery slope runs down both sides of the hill. On one side you have anyone, crazy or same, owning any weapon, bomb, rocket launcher, nuclear bomb they want. On the other side no one allowed a pea shooter or sharp object. Where we are, or need to be between those will change and be debated until the end of time.
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Funny how the anti gun people always bring up little tidbits about people having grenade launchers, rocket launchers, bombs and nukes. Except people pretty much can't have them now. And not a lot of people have been trying to get them either. And if anybody actually does have any of that stuff, they don't seem to be causing any trouble with any of it.

No offense to the Brewmenn, but bringing those items into the argument only increases the ridiculousness of the point the left is trying to make.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 09:26 PM   #48
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Funny how you assumed I was anti gun when I brought up both extremes in the argument.
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Funny how you assumed I was anti gun when I brought up both extremes in the argument.
When you do nothing but play devil's advocate and always bringing up the extremes, what do you expect people to think?
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I wasn't assuming anything. It's not like I'm psychic or psomething. Your comment was just similar to a lot of comments I read on different sites that bring up the same items that you did into their argument, so I just used it as kind of a reference about people bringing up things like grenade launchers.
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I wasn't assuming anything. It's not like I'm psychic or psomething. Your comment was just similar to a lot of comments I read on different sites that bring up the same items that you did into their argument, so I just used it as kind of a reference about people bringing up things like grenade launchers.
And your "baby steps" comment is similar to a lot of comments suggesting that even the slightest increase in gun regulation is part of an outright gun ban. Same slippery slope, opposite direction.
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When you do nothing but play devil's advocate and always bringing up the extremes, what do you expect people to think?
That I like arguing on the internet. That would be tough to do fi I just agreed with everyone.
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Right. But this discussion is about what efforts, if any, should be taken to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people.
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Where there's a will to be crazy there will always be a way. And by crazy I mean Someone hell bent on killing innocent people. These "crazy" people will without a doubt always find a way to kill its what drives them. The only people that will suffer in all of this are the "good people with guns"
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My God! I have a scrip for omeperazole! How long before I have to give up my guns because of acid reflux?
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You and me brotha. Too bad, were not bad people
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Has anything more ever been said about the validity of the stuff John Noveske posted on Facebook?
good point....I havent heard anything more. That whole thing went kinda hush hush, sad.
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Our society is based on innocent until proven guilty. A person taking a prescribed medication has not been proven to have done anything wrong.
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Our society is based on innocent until proven guilty. A person taking a prescribed medication has not been proven to have done anything wrong.
In theory that's how our society should work...
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In theory that's how our society should work...
And has for the last 200 years. The difference is that in the past few years we have gotten soft on criminals, tought our children that they deserve everything and no one is accountable.

All of these "sick" people who have chosen to go on a killing spree are "smart" enough to know that if they attack a place where there are no weapons to fight back that they can cause histeria. I'm so tired of all the excuses. If we would teach morality (it is wrong to kill) and you won't get away with doing this stuff, I feel alot of it will go away. We have a right to bear arms. We have a right to defend ourselves. We are innocent until proven guilty. It worked for the last 200 years.......

Where it won't go away is with the religious freaks who are on a gihad mission.
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