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Old March 27th, 2013, 04:34 AM   #201
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Back in the 60's the government created the "great society", this social engineering program provided financial support to family's that did not have males present in the home. 50 years later we have such a great example of what can happen when we go down the slippery slope calling anything OK. When divorce became mainstream, marriage became a throw away commodity.

Do people really not believe that it is damaging to society to take way all norms? , yes name normal whatever you like, but history shows that as society's degrade ( anything is acceptable) those societies fall. The Greeks, Romans are great examples those societies were successful until they made anything acceptable, then they fell. While I will not be around to see the fall of this United States because I do not believe that it will come in my lifetime, I am sad for my children and their children.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 05:10 AM   #202
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Ah yes, the fragile moral fabric of society. We've been going downhill ever since women were allowed to vote and white people had to share their schools.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 05:13 AM   #203
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Old March 27th, 2013, 05:21 AM   #204
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Jim, in this thread you have made fun of the way gay men speak which is mockery and a form of bashing. A little humor for the discussion.... that is all

And you have brought up the point that this is a religious and moral issue, of which it should be neither. you have your opinion, I have mine.

A persons gender, or gender identity, or sexual orientation is a personal thing that they are born with. If they act out whatever they are "wired for" with consenting adults there is no morality issue, and telling someone they are immoral for how they were born is bashing. I "TOLD" no one what they should or should not do. You asked a question, I answered it. Regarding "TELLING" anyone something, you chose to start this thread by saying "if you don't agree with me, you are racist". Seems to me you are pushing your agenda, I'm just pushing back.

And telling someone that they are wrong because your religion says so is also bashing. Again, I'm not telling anyone anything. I'm responding to you pushing your agenda. I have a niece and an aunt (by marriage) that are both gay. I've never had a discussion with either one of them about it, so no, I'm not out in the world pushing my opinions.

So, IF you are saying being gay is immoral, or wrong, then you are a gay basher. If you feel you have done this and are not OK with this self realization, you have the power within yourself to change it.Don't preach to me. I'm very comfortable with who I am and don't have any desire to change myself.
If you want to be vocal about something you have an urge to push, that is your choice. However, name calling right from the get go to people who don't agree with you is not the way to get your point across.

Our country is going to shit and my belief is that a portion of this reason is that our moral fiber has gone to shit. I'm a Christian. I believe in God. I believe in the sanctity of marriage. I believe that marriage is between one man and one woman. If you don't like that, I don't give a shit. What I do give a shit about is someone preaching immorality to me and then trying to turn the tables on me.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 05:23 AM   #205
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Lets see how many free thinking people we have on here, and how many close minded racists there are. This should be fun!
This is funny! If someone does not agree, they are racist. That is some really free thinking.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 05:47 AM   #206
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Would I change my profile pic? No cause I like Angus Young better than an = symbol.

Would I support marriage equality? Yep!

It doesn't bother me one bit who wants to marry who, I think marriage is a racket to begin with. The whole sanctity of marriage argument is a whole pile of bullshit to begin with. Hows that 50% or greater divorce rate work for you? I'm sure there has never been a politician, entertainer, scientist, religious leader or other influential leader that has ever cheated in there marriage. Nope can't think of 1, I can think of thousands!

If its your religious belief not to be gay, thats fine but don't deny others just cause you don't think it's "appropriate", don't we live in America where there is supposed to be a separation between church and state? Everyone got all pissy when their 2nd amendment rights were threatened when AR's & AK's were to be "banned" but they turn a blind eye when other basic rights and freedoms are denied to others just cause they don't fit their personal beliefs. Also to those pious folk of that believe in the 8lb. baby Jesus, while not a religious scolar I'm pretty sure that Jesus spoke of the love, compassion and understanding of all people's. Not just a select few.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 05:55 AM   #207
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If 2 dudes or 2 chicks, or a dude and a monkey want to get married that's fine by me.

Can anyone explain how changing my profile pic will help that happen?

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Changing the pic is stupid, it proves nothing except the fact that people will do whatever they are told because others are doing it.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 06:01 AM   #208
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I don't think so. I think it shows support for an opinion on an issue.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 06:16 AM   #209
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Why do people defend homos? The spread aids faster than any other group of people. Do any of you want to walk down the street and see two dudes kissing and holding hands? I don't and I don't want my son to have to see it either.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 06:22 AM   #210
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I bet you don't mind seeing two chicks though.

I'm glad that what two people decide to stick in each other doesn't piss me off at all.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 06:24 AM   #211
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Well my minid has been thoroughly changed. At the beginnning of this thread I was all like =, now I am all like || . My final thoughts // . Good day.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 06:41 AM   #212
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I bet you don't mind seeing two chicks though.

I'm glad that what two people decide to stick in each other doesn't piss me off at all.
As a matter of fact I don't like that either. I should have said that earlier.
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is this thread a prelude to the op coming out of the closet?
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Old March 27th, 2013, 06:53 AM   #214
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Lets see how many free thinking people we have on here, and how many close minded racists there are. This should be fun!
This quote, which so many of you have taken issue with, and I am re-quoting for clarity, is not part of my first post. I have already clarified that racist is the wrong word for gay bashing, however notice I did not say "if don't believe like me you are a racist", nor did I say "if you don't support the cause you are a basher". This quote was in response to Marshalls comment calling me a Fag. That behavior is close minded bashing.

Jim, I never "pushed" anything. Only asked who would show support, and yes, poked a little fun by asking who was man enough. I never said you or anyone else was a gay basher for not showing support. My secondary comment was regarding the negative anti-gay comments in this thread, nothing more.

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Old March 27th, 2013, 07:07 AM   #215
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is this thread a prelude to the op coming out of the closet?
No. He brought 2 girlfriends with him to snowboard with us.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 07:12 AM   #216
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I have refrained from making a real post in this thread just because I wanted to see what Route55 was really after by making the thread.

At first it was a simple question asking how many people around here supported gay marriage. No big deal there and there's absolutely nothing wrong with asking that question to see who shares your beliefs. We do it all the time on here when it comes to guns, trucks, parts, and a whole range of religious/political issues.

Unfortunately... that obviously wasn't the intent of Route55. The whole point of this thread was to see who didn't agree with his views and then start viciously attacking them for not lining up behind him. It's a classic liberal tactic and it's absolutely appalling. You lost all credibility and the possibility of swinging people towards your idea the second you started attacking everyone who holds a different opinion. You will never persuade people towards your way of thinking when you instantly approach them in an adversarial tone.

The fact of the matter is... the majority of America does not think like you and do not support gay marriage. The most liberal state in the union has banned it through the use of a vote of the people. When that plan backfired, the extreme minority of LBGTs in this country decided to use the courts to force this legislation that the majority of people don't want. Those are the facts.

Gays are not in any way normal. They are an abnormality in the natural order. In the most primal sense their preferences and activities will do nothing to benefit society or the human race in general. The exact same arguments that the Gays have started using (I'm wired this way... I'm born this way... There's nothing I can do to change it) are now being used by murderers, psychopaths, pedophiles, rapists, and others. Specifically pedophiles due to their sexual deviance.

Route55... You have absolutely NO RIGHT to try and label anyone else as intolerant, "racist", close minded or anything else you threw around in here. The second someone offered a different opinion you embodied all of those insults in yourself. Someone believing in the obvious biologically natural way of things (one man-one woman) is not gay bashing. It's not hateful. It's nothing but a different opinion from yours. That is no excuse for attacking people.

Honestly... you should be ashamed of yourself from your behavior regarding this topic. Trying to shame, guilt and insult people who don't agree with you has done nothing but shut down people who might have been interested in hearing a well thought out argument as to why this should be supported.

In one thread on a forum... You have done more damage to the Gay Marriage cause than any news article or public demonstration and you need to take a hard look at yourself and how you act before you attempt to sway people into supporting a hot topic issue in the future.
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No. He brought 2 girlfriends with him to snowboard with us.
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Added OP to my ignore list for starting this post in the first place!!
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Way too much fuss over 1.8% of the population IMO. I give no fucks either way, but the amount of media attention and lawmaker's time given to 1.8% of the population is ridiculous.

By percentage, 2% of americans say that bowling is their favorite sport to watch. Given the same media bias, bowling would be on espn 80% of the time. That's pre post erous.
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